I agree with you, but my point slightly by passed the level that you argued.
The New Sudan slogan, as far as the self-determination concerns, does not affect South Sudan negatively nor would it make any difference to what we really want. If South Sudan is granted an independent state, then it will not be because we claim South Sudan or New Sudan. It will be either we failed to live under one state or it was an ultimate choice of the South to separate regardless of whether we make unity attractive or not.
There has never been any part of the New Sudan manifesto that claims not the separation of the South. Separation has always been a one of the goals. As a matter of fact; it has been the ultimate goal of the New Sudan. In my understanding, in order to have the free South, we need some friends, true friends "Those who suffered the same prejudicial governance, those who may believe in our goals and had walked or still walking the walk with us" I believe that is how we have achieved the CPA. The CPA is now a document that is owned not only by the Southerners or New Sudan, but also by the entire Sudan. Together we were able to get it started and together we shall make it to our goals individually.
We all know that these few years already showed what has left to be done. My argument was that if Uncle Bona is despising the SPLM because he has a better offer which is a separate state, then he is claiming a very pitiful difference. SPLM already by passed that level and is preparing for an independent state.
Just as an observation, the New Sudan slogan still firing its bullets up to the date but South Sudan's are silenced. That is how New Sudan slogan is so useful for us. That is why Uncle Bona is fighting it for the benefit of Khartoum.
Peter, I did not mock Uncle Bona; rather, I applauded him for the new way of talking. I've almost read all his new writings and have never read anything like that. I also used the very same way asking for blessing of what I thought was different. There is nothing, literally, disrespecting his personal life in my statement. It is only in your thoughts, otherwise.
Giir
http://www.giirbiar.blogspot.com/
--- On Sun, 2/1/09,
Philip Boldit
Fwd: Closing Statement by Bona Malwal
Giir & Peter,
When SPLM/A was established, we had absolute power and leadership or dictatorial system of rule. Opposition was unheard for. When some members started to question some decisions in the leadership circles, one was accused of being 'the enemy of the people' or 'nyigat'. This was the philosophy we indoctrinated our fighters and supporters. Sometimes, I tend to believe that the call for "Democratic Reform" refers to us; we the members of SPLM. Twenty 22 years enjoying un challenegd power; and suddenly we are now asked to accommodate some parties that have practised democracy for years, is a difficult and a rough transistional experience. Being new in this field of politics, we have to accept our short comings. Democracy is a monster to us we SPLM; the other parties, especially the South Sudan political parties have to be patient. And we have to recognize that we have shifted from a movement to a party. Therefore, we must adapt to the norms of the game. We must become democratic by all means and stop belaming or becoming suspecious when other parties outsmart us. All South Sudanese wants their right of becoming independent, no matter wether they are a party or individuals. CPA, though negotiated by SPLM (which is a big credit), calls for right to self-determination, it is a property of all South Sudanese. The game must change now; and those who call for unity of Sudan, please be carefull. South Sudanese will be forced to call you the enemy of the people of South Sudan. You can see what goes around comes around.
Giir, if New Sudan is a compromising factor as long as the independence of the South Sudan is concerned, then you are at wrong side of the southern interest; new sudan is not saleable. All costmetics supposed to made this girl attractive (borrowing Dr John's sayings) have not been applied and the changes of doing that are remote. If SPLM and NCP have spent four years; since the signing of CPA, without making the unity attractive, they cannot do it in the remaining two years. Just forget it and let us celebrate our independence in advance. General Secretary of the SPLM Cde Pagan Amum recorded it to day in all the Newspaper in Sudan, that South will vote 99% for separation. This is the horse mouth saying it. New Sudan will be borne through the independence of South Sudan.
Boldit
From: Peter Karlo pkdeng@cox.net
To: SPLM-Diaspora@ yahoogroups. com
Fwd: Closing Statement by Bona Malwal
Hi Brother Giir Biar,
Please do not think that our uncle Malual-dit is mocking God,he is a true devoted Catholic .And I have witness him several times attending mid-night mass services on Christmas eve in St.Mathiews Cathardal church,in down town Khartoum, for many years.
And beside lets us all respect the spirit of the free democracy ideals in a multi -parties parliamentarian system.
However we all knows that SPLM-party ,is now major party with a large numbers of follows,because fought the brutal for a long and it had came out semi-victorious in the Southern Sudan.Since the day it brought as the CPA,on Jan,9,2009,that comperhensive peace agreement,that was soak with the blood of ,2- millions dead Southerns, for almost ,21 ,years of our lives.
Therefore this sem-victorious SPLM-party,actually now need a strong opposition party in the Southern Sudan Nation.So that the SPLM-party, can be in a strong position to competes with the other strong opposition parties on equal footing in the political arena and political theater of the South Sudan.Or else it will look like the SPLM-party, is actually exercising a one political party dictatorship system.
Just look at the two major political parties of e,g,the Democratic and Republican parties respectively here in the USA.The two parties always competes against each other in a well developed democracy and good advance governance system,with out dictatorship. That is why we had president Obama,currently ruling as the first Black African American president for the whole of the Unitet State of America.
The question of the separation of the Southern Sudan,has already been sovled by the CPA,where as the whole Southern Sudan,is given the right for self determination in an international supervise referendum in year 2011and its sealed.
Therefore Uncle Bona's party, can say what ever they wants ,which its party think that is concerning the independence of Southern sudan.And I think that is their freedom of speech and their to exciser their rights in a free political expressions ,especially at this current time following the signing of the CPA.
You must also not for get that uncle Bona-dit,was a one time an adarent supporter of the SPLA/ Movement ,Way back Before his falling out with late Dr.John Garang.And also Uncle Bona,too use to belongs to the Southern Front party,that was advocating the independence of Southern Sudan,through self-determination.
Therefore I even support his candidancy if he real wants to runns against Mr.Kiir,for the GoSS presidency,in the coming general election of 2009.He is actually free to do that with out he wants to do peacefully and politically .Provided that his opposition political dose no cause any troubles with the SPLM-party .
And the SPLM-party,must really be now open to accept free democratic competion in a free and fair general electing this year in July. As it was clearly stated in the CPA,and the INC,by both coalsion ruling political partners of the NCP and SPLM-party ,since Jan,2005 and so allow Malual-dit,to speak his mind please !
And thanks.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Giir Biar
To: mailto:SPLM-Diaspora@%20yahoogroups.%20com
Dear SPLM Members,
Youth of SSDF
The article below reminds me of the disappearance of my 17 page article which was lost in October of 2008. I wrote that article when I was in jail. The article was meant to be forwarded to GoSS Mission, Washington, DC for help in posting but, it has never reach DC and also never come back. When I read between most of these lines I see my own wards that were directed to SSDF as in defense of SPLM.
However, I am trying to question or respond to few things here, hoping that the claimed Youth of SSDF may want to reconsider their position in their upcoming convention. After all, the article was sent out in purpose of debating the SPLM.
I do not think that there is prove of how the SPLM is threatening the Northerners or other Southern parties as Dr. Malwal puts it. SPLM is a partner of NCP and other parties including SSDF for all the last four years. That is a concrete prove to shaw that there is harmony among all political parties in Sudan.
How would you want an independent state from Khartoum while you are well supported by the North? The right of self-determination was and still being fought by the Southerners. It is not taken for granted yet. Since the SSDF does not want to confront Khartoum in anyways, how would they bring the self-determination? That is the very same thing that led Dr. Machar and Lam Akol to retrieved their way back. What would be new in SSDF tracks? I think the result of such a relationship may again end in either of the following two predictions; 1/ When SSDF gets fat up and stop taking no more lies, they will recover at a very narrow stage and ask the forgiveness from the SPLM. 2/ Khartoum will either deny the authenticity of any claim made by SSDF, or force them to join the army if they fail. Is that the thing we really want to drag our people into again?
Giving thanks to Khartoum because of having higher seats has never been a good thing for the South because it was not from favoring we achieved those seats, it was a right that South claimed in more than 50 years of efforts. We in the South, are still looking for more than these few seats. These are our plain rights that make our every morning a short of a good relationship with Khartoum. In another word, we in the SPLM are the ones that will never let Khartoum get away with what does not belong to them.
I did not detect any new step or goal of SSDF towards implementation of the right of self-determination except that they are pitifully claiming South Sudan instead of New Sudan.
For what it worth, I am glad that Uncle Bona is using divinity language...calling almighty God.. may God also use that in return to bless South Sudan by giving what is right for all. Perhaps to save any postponement of today's conflict for an other more generations to start or give more life again for the same reasons that we have already achieved today.
Giir Biar
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