Dear all,
Again,
The only offensive move that bellowed the crisis is the movement of SPLM headquarters to Khartoum.
We should have done that a long time ago so that we can add all these agendas to our New Sudan Rebuilding Projects.
Let’s think offensive more and more so that we can get more of those hidden agendas.
Please, be tune to the enemy’s language.
Giir Biar
War is Eminent
Dear Southerners and New Sudan in General,
The statement of Ali Taha, below, is a sign of getting back to war.
I think NCP wanted to shake off the other parts of New Sudan. We have fought our wars in so many years without new Sudan. We’ve made up the real Sudan that is about to be destroyed by NCP. We should be better off on any treaties at this time and be offensive rather than being so defensive. It is a time we all should rally behind our people on the power and push them to the war.
Truth got to be said, Goss has been defensive more than getting offensive. I hope they will not let us down.
I hope SPLM/GoSS will never drop a single piece of CPA.
But most importantly, let us gather behind the GoSS to assure them that we are going to be a part of the war with sacrifices, our life sacrifices. Let us give them the full trust that we are ready to make another fifty years of war.
There are no more rooms for negotiations regardless.
God bless the South
Giir Biar
The statement of Ali Taha, below, is a sign of getting back to war.
I think NCP wanted to shake off the other parts of New Sudan. We have fought our wars in so many years without new Sudan. We’ve made up the real Sudan that is about to be destroyed by NCP. We should be better off on any treaties at this time and be offensive rather than being so defensive. It is a time we all should rally behind our people on the power and push them to the war.
Truth got to be said, Goss has been defensive more than getting offensive. I hope they will not let us down.
I hope SPLM/GoSS will never drop a single piece of CPA.
But most importantly, let us gather behind the GoSS to assure them that we are going to be a part of the war with sacrifices, our life sacrifices. Let us give them the full trust that we are ready to make another fifty years of war.
There are no more rooms for negotiations regardless.
God bless the South
Giir Biar
63 Tribes of South Sudan
Did you know that South Sudan has 63 tribes?
1. Acholi
2. Aja
3. Anyuak
4. Atuot
5. Avukaya
6. Azande
7. Bai
8. Baka
9. Balana-Boor
10. Balana-Bviri
11. Banda Bari
12. Binga
13. Bongo
14. Boya
15. Didinga
16. Dinka [Jeng]
17. Dongotona
18. Feroghe
19. Gollo
20. Ifoto
21. Imatong
22. indri
23. Jiye
24. Jurbiel
25. Jurchol
26. Mananger
27. Kakowa
28. Kara
29. Kaliko
30. Kresh
31. Kuku
32. Lango
33. Lotuka
34. Logir
35. Lokoya
36. Lulubo
37. Lopit
38. Lugbwara
39. Maban
40. Madi
41. Makaraka
42. Mangayat
43. Moro
44. Mundari
45. Mundu
46. Murle
47. Ndogo
48. ngulngule
49. Nuer [Naath]
50. Nyangatom
51. Nyangwara
52. Nyepu
53. Pari
54. Pojulu
55. Sere
56. Shatt
57. Shilluk
58. Suri
59. Tenet
60. Toposa
61. Uduk
62. Woro
63. Yulu
1. Acholi
2. Aja
3. Anyuak
4. Atuot
5. Avukaya
6. Azande
7. Bai
8. Baka
9. Balana-Boor
10. Balana-Bviri
11. Banda Bari
12. Binga
13. Bongo
14. Boya
15. Didinga
16. Dinka [Jeng]
17. Dongotona
18. Feroghe
19. Gollo
20. Ifoto
21. Imatong
22. indri
23. Jiye
24. Jurbiel
25. Jurchol
26. Mananger
27. Kakowa
28. Kara
29. Kaliko
30. Kresh
31. Kuku
32. Lango
33. Lotuka
34. Logir
35. Lokoya
36. Lulubo
37. Lopit
38. Lugbwara
39. Maban
40. Madi
41. Makaraka
42. Mangayat
43. Moro
44. Mundari
45. Mundu
46. Murle
47. Ndogo
48. ngulngule
49. Nuer [Naath]
50. Nyangatom
51. Nyangwara
52. Nyepu
53. Pari
54. Pojulu
55. Sere
56. Shatt
57. Shilluk
58. Suri
59. Tenet
60. Toposa
61. Uduk
62. Woro
63. Yulu
Pagan in DC/10/2/2007
Oct, 2nd, 2007
I think the visit of SG Pagan made most people busy; it could also be something else, like just a one of the rare things that happens. My best assumption is that people went to DC and that can occupy them to arrange, cut off all their free time just to plan to come and talk or hear from Pagan.............I hope they understand that, particularly my dear Pagan.
I heard that Pagan can not be found due to the schedules that is primarily arranged by Ezekiel and that the only ones who are in good relationship with Ezekiel and his crew are the only ones to get access to Pagan.
That can be simply heard from angry people especially those who want jobs, different helps or just to come and criticize the SPLM. But most importantly, Mr. Amom should next time try to open some gates from his own, and should not sound as a person who did not know what his young ones do behind his control. So that his very best power (in the USA) is not limited to some sort of personal analysis.
Just to avoid our old Janub, by the way, our old Janub is bad as North can be.
To tell you truth, I have not tried much to approach DC. I once called the office and was told that I have to talk with Ezekiel who is the ordinary processing officer, but, I felt cold and did not pursue it no more.
Brothers who asked about why we don't have more post in last two or three days, I really don't know. I am just like you are. However, I sent my post last night and some other day before. It might be just because there is nothing to say, or people are just getting back from DC and are exhausted. It happens all the time when we have an occasion.
My special message is that we should have rules and regulations and South should not go back to our old one. Our old South was bad as the North can be. I am sure the echo is still doing its sound.
Some people who came to the power and did not know exactly what was the problem or have had some experience, may still suffer some of these disadvantages. I hope dear Pagan, the smart man fine a way for that and help to eliminate some questions.
I have been talking about SPLM in the last three years publicly or personally... you can verify that in my archive at this web site http://giirbiar.blogspot.com/ I have some more that goes back to 2005. The web site does not allow me to get them out at one time, but if you want any major post of mind during the fraimed time, I may help you by requesting it. Please, just notice that everything is from my own major posts. Nothing should be out of my post. After all, it is my own archive.
Coming back to the topic, I appreciate you involving me in all of your concerns, but you should know that there is nothing wrong; all of these are because of SPLM SG who is in town.
Again I appreciate your private emails.
One more thing, please know that I am just poor as you are when it comes to SPLM, I am saying this to people of New Sudan Mailing list. Do not understand me wrong, I will never turn down your voices. When you talk to me privately, you make me feel honored. That creates powers out of nothing in me.
God bless you all.
Giir Biar
I think the visit of SG Pagan made most people busy; it could also be something else, like just a one of the rare things that happens. My best assumption is that people went to DC and that can occupy them to arrange, cut off all their free time just to plan to come and talk or hear from Pagan.............I hope they understand that, particularly my dear Pagan.
I heard that Pagan can not be found due to the schedules that is primarily arranged by Ezekiel and that the only ones who are in good relationship with Ezekiel and his crew are the only ones to get access to Pagan.
That can be simply heard from angry people especially those who want jobs, different helps or just to come and criticize the SPLM. But most importantly, Mr. Amom should next time try to open some gates from his own, and should not sound as a person who did not know what his young ones do behind his control. So that his very best power (in the USA) is not limited to some sort of personal analysis.
Just to avoid our old Janub, by the way, our old Janub is bad as North can be.
To tell you truth, I have not tried much to approach DC. I once called the office and was told that I have to talk with Ezekiel who is the ordinary processing officer, but, I felt cold and did not pursue it no more.
Brothers who asked about why we don't have more post in last two or three days, I really don't know. I am just like you are. However, I sent my post last night and some other day before. It might be just because there is nothing to say, or people are just getting back from DC and are exhausted. It happens all the time when we have an occasion.
My special message is that we should have rules and regulations and South should not go back to our old one. Our old South was bad as the North can be. I am sure the echo is still doing its sound.
Some people who came to the power and did not know exactly what was the problem or have had some experience, may still suffer some of these disadvantages. I hope dear Pagan, the smart man fine a way for that and help to eliminate some questions.
I have been talking about SPLM in the last three years publicly or personally... you can verify that in my archive at this web site http://giirbiar.blogspot.com/ I have some more that goes back to 2005. The web site does not allow me to get them out at one time, but if you want any major post of mind during the fraimed time, I may help you by requesting it. Please, just notice that everything is from my own major posts. Nothing should be out of my post. After all, it is my own archive.
Coming back to the topic, I appreciate you involving me in all of your concerns, but you should know that there is nothing wrong; all of these are because of SPLM SG who is in town.
Again I appreciate your private emails.
One more thing, please know that I am just poor as you are when it comes to SPLM, I am saying this to people of New Sudan Mailing list. Do not understand me wrong, I will never turn down your voices. When you talk to me privately, you make me feel honored. That creates powers out of nothing in me.
God bless you all.
Giir Biar
South has un Exploited power that North Does not have
Wed Aug 8, 2007 1:50 pm
Dear Pagan Amum.
Simply,
I kept saying, we have more power than Basheer and entire North (if the word comes to reality). We are going to make it straight. Thanks to SPLM/Salva Kiir and Pagan for moving the movement to Khartoum. That decision is functioning as much as Garangs death could be.
I MYSELF WOULD love to be in Khartoum NOW. I hope I will see you soon brother Pagan.
Yasir and Adelaziz left you on the job alone. Though Yasir is coming back, he firstly did abundant you through Abdeaziz. Abdelaziz should pay for that.
Amumdit,
You are my new hero man. Let me in. Let South Sudan in, let Nuba, Eastern Sudan, Athbara, Shamaleia where Basheer and Numeri are from. Let The World know that we (Nilotics) are KINGS of AFRICA. Let us invent what Dr. Garang did not have a time to implement.
Let us have a strong nation
Let us have our real name, South Sudan, may be a different name. Sudan is an Arabic word (It means blacks in Arabic) that does not convey our real language. It is not our real name. Our real name should be Ranchol or Nath as in Dinka or Nuer, Loch as in Shuluk or any other name that we can have from Equatoria…..( sorry for not knowing any Equatorian’s name) We are and have been Anyanya. Common Word.
Let us complete what Garang did not a have a time to do.
Big boys (SPLM), I also have my heard on you, most people will have a time for this massage, so be ahead.
Again, you go Salva Kiir
Pagan and SPLM
I will put my life on that
Giir Giir Majok Biar
Dear Pagan Amum.
Simply,
I kept saying, we have more power than Basheer and entire North (if the word comes to reality). We are going to make it straight. Thanks to SPLM/Salva Kiir and Pagan for moving the movement to Khartoum. That decision is functioning as much as Garangs death could be.
I MYSELF WOULD love to be in Khartoum NOW. I hope I will see you soon brother Pagan.
Yasir and Adelaziz left you on the job alone. Though Yasir is coming back, he firstly did abundant you through Abdeaziz. Abdelaziz should pay for that.
Amumdit,
You are my new hero man. Let me in. Let South Sudan in, let Nuba, Eastern Sudan, Athbara, Shamaleia where Basheer and Numeri are from. Let The World know that we (Nilotics) are KINGS of AFRICA. Let us invent what Dr. Garang did not have a time to implement.
Let us have a strong nation
Let us have our real name, South Sudan, may be a different name. Sudan is an Arabic word (It means blacks in Arabic) that does not convey our real language. It is not our real name. Our real name should be Ranchol or Nath as in Dinka or Nuer, Loch as in Shuluk or any other name that we can have from Equatoria…..( sorry for not knowing any Equatorian’s name) We are and have been Anyanya. Common Word.
Let us complete what Garang did not a have a time to do.
Big boys (SPLM), I also have my heard on you, most people will have a time for this massage, so be ahead.
Again, you go Salva Kiir
Pagan and SPLM
I will put my life on that
Giir Giir Majok Biar
I got in the conflict because I wanted to see change in the SPLM Party
Tue May 15, 2007 4:57 am
Dear SPLM Members,
As I write this, in the late night of May 14th, 2007, I am more than 15 years in the exile Life. Like many, a large part of my life has been irreversibly affected by war in the South. My entire adolescence and adult life – as well as the lives of many of my peers – has been overshadowed by the belief in a deadly, political transformation and the attendant fear of intimacy and lack of trust that belief engenders.
To add to this impact, my chosen career has developed around journalism. I received training in 2001 for my work constructing Transpiration of Minorities in a way, a field of study I entered in 1998. Just six years later, it might seem early for me to be looking back on and seriously reconsidering my chosen field, yet here I am.
I got in the conflict because I wanted to see change in the SPLM Party. I knew from our little experience in these forums, that even local people know what is better and that strong state parties and successful elected officials should teach the rest of the Party their best inputs. I want to see the SPLM “and with SPLM being the lead party in the GoSS” get back to its real mission: to help each candidate and assist state, county and diplomat parties to achieve new standards or performance.
As the country is starting from square zero, and with all these new challenges, the Party should always appoints someone who is not only understands change, but knows how to make it happen.
First of all, “I am honored to have your support to come back. I should be very proud of the integrity, momentum and energy that you brought to this race. The support SPLM was able to achieve from all levels of the Sudan’s parties and all regions of the country is a testament to its political skill and commitment to the grassroots. Everybody hope to be able to count on SPLM¹s help in the future as we work to build our Party so that we can win elections again.”
SPLM/GoSS Leadership’
Get yourself out of gorillas trunks, the whole nation of different aspects are here along with you, general atmosphere of politics are different now, we all have to believe that. It is very sure that bush got us out of this chaotic condition, but we are into a different level now. After all, between Khartoum and our trips to SPLM’s Pit, we're going to keep making these efforts worth a while.
It is our promise to keep you informed and to give you an opportunity to contribute to the dialogue throughout the remaining period of the elections. After all, what else is there to do in Sudan? Both the Diaspora people on the ground should be a major intersection of ideas - diverse ideas. That's where you come in. If you've got an opinion to offer, we want it - every single time.
We don't just want your speeches, letters or appearances. Intellectuals could always use another voice - the more diversity in our forums, the better. Diasporas can write as many or as few arguments as they like.
If you don't have a desire to be a part of our forums, but can offer a unique perspective or expert opinion on a certain issue, get in touch with us and we'll run your work as a guest or hidden member. Yes, it is our promise to bring diverse, intelligent perspectives to the table, but we need your help to fully deliver on that promise.
I know I speak for the entire Southern Sudanese citizens when I tell you how grateful we are for your support of the GoSS Mission Offices. Tow years is a very short time in the power. But we've had a great run. Now, every month or year, one of us is going on to future endeavors, sad to leave, but cheered by the knowledge that we made a difference in so many lives.
Dear concerned Southerners, my frustration is summarized in these coming few paragarphs.
The principle underlies the unity of tribes, parties and SPLM with in itself requirement is that in order for multi- entities to be unitary, there must be "some bond of or control" uniting the purported unitary entities. When unity of boundaries exists, tribe can be commonly controlled in a manner where the interests of a single tribe can be made subservient to the interests of the entire region unit represented by all of the tribes in the purported unitary group. That did not seem to be a concern or the arrangements of the GoSS. Instead, they only cared about those who carried guns. Lots of lives have been lost and more are getting lost every other month.
Diaspora on the Road
Who has not heard of Cairo Masicar. We certainly have. It seems that every Sudanese, at least those who still carry their national passports and lost their love ones have to go home or else you would not be able to process various immigration process. These can range from moving around Egypt, to even get a fiver treatment for your child. Fortunately, UN was and still our government, they are the ones who shows concerns, now the recently file a case to the Republic Egypt to ask the whereabouts of the dead and its findings.
I have carried on saying!!!never.!!! Well!!! it is not really a problem. As long as one is a far away citizen, and does not have any effect!!! then there would not be the need to worry for the time bieng, and not paying concern becomes only a sort of belief. Now that I have got in to the close look to the leadership and employment, even though I am still thinking as in general, I realise I have to give respect to even people with moral issues in order to help or say something to GoSS officials. I cannot help but feel sick to have to see some people that we all know are appointed leaders. Country of mine is a cause of distress, separation and anxiety.
On benefits, go to Juba for the vecation, and comeback here to preach the good news of southern Sudan.Ladies and gentlement,
The field of disaster in some departments such as Regional Affairs, Finance, Communication and information services are continuously dropping instead of evolving as new system provides additional legitimate wealth. While there are still chances in the research on the effectiveness of early interventions, much research have to be conducted on the effectiveness of intervention approaches and a range of services. The interventions must be tailored to the unique experiences and the needs of the affected individuals and community. This is especially true when it comes to response to corruption, where no two events are ever the same. Corruption starts “no that they mean it but because of the poor system” from the high positions. The lower class always will do the dirty to take care of their families, and that also goes to the unbalanced budget of the country.
Dear compatriots,
Allow me to talk and since you had last three days of talking on my issue publicly or privately with me, let me have at list my full chance.
We all remember the Jongalay Cnanal story in the eighties where the Anyanya two started its war. There is no much to talk about it anyways, but if we can find ways to be heard in the SS Parliament, then we do historical achievements. These are just my worries.
Dear all,
By verbalizing our needs, we are helping the government. I think the most important thing is that one should not expect that your voice is heard while silencing at home, simply because one has a Degree, Master, PhD or well known in the South, one can do or say some constructive words, it really takes a little bit, not a lot, but some special courage to provide these services to the public in an ethical way and in a way that is beneficial to construction.
Pertaining to James Deng Angok’s case,
We had a long talk last night and he agreed to go in public and apologize on the posted picture issue. The second issue which was very disappointing is: what is the position of communication coordinator? In addition, it seems to me that when ever you do mistake, you get a jobs. That means jobs are only given to those who do mistakes. The problem was not that I wanted a job, but who supposed to get a job. There is no job there to begin with. I don’t know why James Morgan congratulated him, but Deng said he is just helping the government to get all the equipments that they need. That means no base salary, it is just a help to the country.
Finally, I have some suggestion that we all may need in processing good governance for the future indorsmements.
The belief that our Founding Father Dr. Garang designed our system of government in the form of a constitutionally limited republic with maximum freedom.
The belief that power belongs to the states, to local governments, and especially in the hands of “We the People.”
The belief that it’s time to end all unconstitutional involvement in country's issues such as crime, health, education, welfare, and the environment, including social programs such as employment, public wealth and life necessities.
Dear brothers and sisters,
When the SPLM came together after Dr. Garang died in the plane crash, 2005, they created one system as their agent—not the other way around. It’s going to take some brave southerners to send that message to Sudan—and some unconventional methods, like saying “No” to the Arabs. If together we rise with conviction and with the weight of history behind us, then, with God’s help, I believe we can succeed.
I apologize for my frustration and I am going to work with you hand to hand until we create a strong nation
God Bless you
Giir Majok Biar
Dear SPLM Members,
As I write this, in the late night of May 14th, 2007, I am more than 15 years in the exile Life. Like many, a large part of my life has been irreversibly affected by war in the South. My entire adolescence and adult life – as well as the lives of many of my peers – has been overshadowed by the belief in a deadly, political transformation and the attendant fear of intimacy and lack of trust that belief engenders.
To add to this impact, my chosen career has developed around journalism. I received training in 2001 for my work constructing Transpiration of Minorities in a way, a field of study I entered in 1998. Just six years later, it might seem early for me to be looking back on and seriously reconsidering my chosen field, yet here I am.
I got in the conflict because I wanted to see change in the SPLM Party. I knew from our little experience in these forums, that even local people know what is better and that strong state parties and successful elected officials should teach the rest of the Party their best inputs. I want to see the SPLM “and with SPLM being the lead party in the GoSS” get back to its real mission: to help each candidate and assist state, county and diplomat parties to achieve new standards or performance.
As the country is starting from square zero, and with all these new challenges, the Party should always appoints someone who is not only understands change, but knows how to make it happen.
First of all, “I am honored to have your support to come back. I should be very proud of the integrity, momentum and energy that you brought to this race. The support SPLM was able to achieve from all levels of the Sudan’s parties and all regions of the country is a testament to its political skill and commitment to the grassroots. Everybody hope to be able to count on SPLM¹s help in the future as we work to build our Party so that we can win elections again.”
SPLM/GoSS Leadership’
Get yourself out of gorillas trunks, the whole nation of different aspects are here along with you, general atmosphere of politics are different now, we all have to believe that. It is very sure that bush got us out of this chaotic condition, but we are into a different level now. After all, between Khartoum and our trips to SPLM’s Pit, we're going to keep making these efforts worth a while.
It is our promise to keep you informed and to give you an opportunity to contribute to the dialogue throughout the remaining period of the elections. After all, what else is there to do in Sudan? Both the Diaspora people on the ground should be a major intersection of ideas - diverse ideas. That's where you come in. If you've got an opinion to offer, we want it - every single time.
We don't just want your speeches, letters or appearances. Intellectuals could always use another voice - the more diversity in our forums, the better. Diasporas can write as many or as few arguments as they like.
If you don't have a desire to be a part of our forums, but can offer a unique perspective or expert opinion on a certain issue, get in touch with us and we'll run your work as a guest or hidden member. Yes, it is our promise to bring diverse, intelligent perspectives to the table, but we need your help to fully deliver on that promise.
I know I speak for the entire Southern Sudanese citizens when I tell you how grateful we are for your support of the GoSS Mission Offices. Tow years is a very short time in the power. But we've had a great run. Now, every month or year, one of us is going on to future endeavors, sad to leave, but cheered by the knowledge that we made a difference in so many lives.
Dear concerned Southerners, my frustration is summarized in these coming few paragarphs.
The principle underlies the unity of tribes, parties and SPLM with in itself requirement is that in order for multi- entities to be unitary, there must be "some bond of or control" uniting the purported unitary entities. When unity of boundaries exists, tribe can be commonly controlled in a manner where the interests of a single tribe can be made subservient to the interests of the entire region unit represented by all of the tribes in the purported unitary group. That did not seem to be a concern or the arrangements of the GoSS. Instead, they only cared about those who carried guns. Lots of lives have been lost and more are getting lost every other month.
Diaspora on the Road
Who has not heard of Cairo Masicar. We certainly have. It seems that every Sudanese, at least those who still carry their national passports and lost their love ones have to go home or else you would not be able to process various immigration process. These can range from moving around Egypt, to even get a fiver treatment for your child. Fortunately, UN was and still our government, they are the ones who shows concerns, now the recently file a case to the Republic Egypt to ask the whereabouts of the dead and its findings.
I have carried on saying!!!never.!!! Well!!! it is not really a problem. As long as one is a far away citizen, and does not have any effect!!! then there would not be the need to worry for the time bieng, and not paying concern becomes only a sort of belief. Now that I have got in to the close look to the leadership and employment, even though I am still thinking as in general, I realise I have to give respect to even people with moral issues in order to help or say something to GoSS officials. I cannot help but feel sick to have to see some people that we all know are appointed leaders. Country of mine is a cause of distress, separation and anxiety.
On benefits, go to Juba for the vecation, and comeback here to preach the good news of southern Sudan.Ladies and gentlement,
The field of disaster in some departments such as Regional Affairs, Finance, Communication and information services are continuously dropping instead of evolving as new system provides additional legitimate wealth. While there are still chances in the research on the effectiveness of early interventions, much research have to be conducted on the effectiveness of intervention approaches and a range of services. The interventions must be tailored to the unique experiences and the needs of the affected individuals and community. This is especially true when it comes to response to corruption, where no two events are ever the same. Corruption starts “no that they mean it but because of the poor system” from the high positions. The lower class always will do the dirty to take care of their families, and that also goes to the unbalanced budget of the country.
Dear compatriots,
Allow me to talk and since you had last three days of talking on my issue publicly or privately with me, let me have at list my full chance.
We all remember the Jongalay Cnanal story in the eighties where the Anyanya two started its war. There is no much to talk about it anyways, but if we can find ways to be heard in the SS Parliament, then we do historical achievements. These are just my worries.
Dear all,
By verbalizing our needs, we are helping the government. I think the most important thing is that one should not expect that your voice is heard while silencing at home, simply because one has a Degree, Master, PhD or well known in the South, one can do or say some constructive words, it really takes a little bit, not a lot, but some special courage to provide these services to the public in an ethical way and in a way that is beneficial to construction.
Pertaining to James Deng Angok’s case,
We had a long talk last night and he agreed to go in public and apologize on the posted picture issue. The second issue which was very disappointing is: what is the position of communication coordinator? In addition, it seems to me that when ever you do mistake, you get a jobs. That means jobs are only given to those who do mistakes. The problem was not that I wanted a job, but who supposed to get a job. There is no job there to begin with. I don’t know why James Morgan congratulated him, but Deng said he is just helping the government to get all the equipments that they need. That means no base salary, it is just a help to the country.
Finally, I have some suggestion that we all may need in processing good governance for the future indorsmements.
The belief that our Founding Father Dr. Garang designed our system of government in the form of a constitutionally limited republic with maximum freedom.
The belief that power belongs to the states, to local governments, and especially in the hands of “We the People.”
The belief that it’s time to end all unconstitutional involvement in country's issues such as crime, health, education, welfare, and the environment, including social programs such as employment, public wealth and life necessities.
Dear brothers and sisters,
When the SPLM came together after Dr. Garang died in the plane crash, 2005, they created one system as their agent—not the other way around. It’s going to take some brave southerners to send that message to Sudan—and some unconventional methods, like saying “No” to the Arabs. If together we rise with conviction and with the weight of history behind us, then, with God’s help, I believe we can succeed.
I apologize for my frustration and I am going to work with you hand to hand until we create a strong nation
God Bless you
Giir Majok Biar
Sudanese refugees killed in Edmonton shootings
Sat May 19, 2007 6:38 pm
Dear all,
It is with a deep sorrow that another two young brothers are lost in a gun battle in Edmonton, Canada. One of these brothers is my relative who previously had lost his older brother in US. His father Deng Ring Juk passed away two years ago also in Canada.
This family has suffered lost since the last decade. It started when Uncle Deng Ring lost the very same children when Murahleen took them and salve them for sometimes. Fortunately, and after few years moving from village to another in Kordufan, he was able to find them and paid for their release. Now that is what happened again.
May God rest their soul in eternity.
Giir Majok Biar
Dear all,
It is with a deep sorrow that another two young brothers are lost in a gun battle in Edmonton, Canada. One of these brothers is my relative who previously had lost his older brother in US. His father Deng Ring Juk passed away two years ago also in Canada.
This family has suffered lost since the last decade. It started when Uncle Deng Ring lost the very same children when Murahleen took them and salve them for sometimes. Fortunately, and after few years moving from village to another in Kordufan, he was able to find them and paid for their release. Now that is what happened again.
May God rest their soul in eternity.
Giir Majok Biar
Braving Borders, Building Bridges: A Journey for Human Rights
Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:39 pm
I’m sending this message to all our united southern Sudan group; GoSS Mission offices, immigrants and associated lists, encouraging that in the near future, groups and regions forums, add to your agendas, solidarity in the closing of the don’t.
People in the hospitals or seeing doctors constantly can make up some percentage of our immigrants, prisons and correctional facilities, addiction and mental retardation facilities, children and women scattered through worldwide, handicap and broken families, and other similar conditions should be spearheaded by such forums, of which we are committed in bridging communications and building solidarity across the nation and globe.
Complimenting one of my friend’s unrevealed titles, who has been diagnosed for last 17 years with no treatment, and by my own mantra has been, open borders, open hearts and minds, open communications. ..Surety and extol of this journey is: braving borders, building bridges.
God bless you
Giir Biar
I’m sending this message to all our united southern Sudan group; GoSS Mission offices, immigrants and associated lists, encouraging that in the near future, groups and regions forums, add to your agendas, solidarity in the closing of the don’t.
People in the hospitals or seeing doctors constantly can make up some percentage of our immigrants, prisons and correctional facilities, addiction and mental retardation facilities, children and women scattered through worldwide, handicap and broken families, and other similar conditions should be spearheaded by such forums, of which we are committed in bridging communications and building solidarity across the nation and globe.
Complimenting one of my friend’s unrevealed titles, who has been diagnosed for last 17 years with no treatment, and by my own mantra has been, open borders, open hearts and minds, open communications. ..Surety and extol of this journey is: braving borders, building bridges.
God bless you
Giir Biar
Our Powerful Media Must Be Extended to the North
Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:23 pm
Our Powerful Media Must Be Extended to the North.
SPLM must expand its media capacity over more of the country if the authority of the ruling NCP is to be checked. Most critics say the expanded SPLM-Northern front is having a significant impact on the NCP.
One of the main issues for the SPLM is to extend its writ and its reach into the more remote, not only province capitals and districts, but into the capital Khartoum as well. I know we're working on it. There are programs that exist that are trying to address that, and that's one of the things that we're going to have to work hard on going forward.
NCP remains terrorizing the South and the New Sudan for that mater, exploiting local grievances about issues such as corruption and poor governance, militias and other factors to attract recruits. We also should attribute to the increase in attacks to a more aggressive posture by our Northern SPLM front, which have taken an increasingly direct role in fighting the ignoramus governing based along the national level.
"I think that several things may explain the increased violence in southern Sudan and Darfur, not the least of which that UN and other forces have been taking a more proactive posture in that part of the country. UN media have started going into areas that had previously not been touched by most media. So I think that one has to take that into account. And my understanding is that the NCP have suffered some quite severe losses in those media engagements. And it remains to be seen what the net outcome of all of that is."
The new spate of attacks has also sparked another war, this one of words between GoSS President Salva Kiir and his “well, future” counterpart, Omar Elbashir.
President Salva who accuses President Bashir of slowly implementing the CPA and frequently supporting the LRA, also did not help in cracking down on militias activity in Sudan and infiltration from Sudan's largely lawless tribal areas in the West and South. President Bashir, responds by saying the tribal war are to be a Sudan internal problem, not a Worlds one.
Recently NCP, the government, signed so many treaties with Darfur, and other leaders to get them to stop the “tribal infiltration” as they defined, but it remains to be seen if it will never accomplish its purpose. I think those treaties are already in troubles. As you know they were actually initiated by the NCP themselves in order to get a safe haven, which they now have.
Our project should consider both SPLM and NCP key allies in combating injustice and implement Comprehensive Peace Accord, hosts media at the national level and improve SPLM outreach in an attempt to mend the rift between the two ruling parties.
An SPLM media would help and rescue lots of our people in the north and all parts of Sudan. It is very crucial that we must have channels in Khartoum.
Brother in Struggle
Giir Biar
Our Powerful Media Must Be Extended to the North.
SPLM must expand its media capacity over more of the country if the authority of the ruling NCP is to be checked. Most critics say the expanded SPLM-Northern front is having a significant impact on the NCP.
One of the main issues for the SPLM is to extend its writ and its reach into the more remote, not only province capitals and districts, but into the capital Khartoum as well. I know we're working on it. There are programs that exist that are trying to address that, and that's one of the things that we're going to have to work hard on going forward.
NCP remains terrorizing the South and the New Sudan for that mater, exploiting local grievances about issues such as corruption and poor governance, militias and other factors to attract recruits. We also should attribute to the increase in attacks to a more aggressive posture by our Northern SPLM front, which have taken an increasingly direct role in fighting the ignoramus governing based along the national level.
"I think that several things may explain the increased violence in southern Sudan and Darfur, not the least of which that UN and other forces have been taking a more proactive posture in that part of the country. UN media have started going into areas that had previously not been touched by most media. So I think that one has to take that into account. And my understanding is that the NCP have suffered some quite severe losses in those media engagements. And it remains to be seen what the net outcome of all of that is."
The new spate of attacks has also sparked another war, this one of words between GoSS President Salva Kiir and his “well, future” counterpart, Omar Elbashir.
President Salva who accuses President Bashir of slowly implementing the CPA and frequently supporting the LRA, also did not help in cracking down on militias activity in Sudan and infiltration from Sudan's largely lawless tribal areas in the West and South. President Bashir, responds by saying the tribal war are to be a Sudan internal problem, not a Worlds one.
Recently NCP, the government, signed so many treaties with Darfur, and other leaders to get them to stop the “tribal infiltration” as they defined, but it remains to be seen if it will never accomplish its purpose. I think those treaties are already in troubles. As you know they were actually initiated by the NCP themselves in order to get a safe haven, which they now have.
Our project should consider both SPLM and NCP key allies in combating injustice and implement Comprehensive Peace Accord, hosts media at the national level and improve SPLM outreach in an attempt to mend the rift between the two ruling parties.
An SPLM media would help and rescue lots of our people in the north and all parts of Sudan. It is very crucial that we must have channels in Khartoum.
Brother in Struggle
Giir Biar
Open Letter to SG Pagan Amum, Chaiman P of GoSS
Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:28 pm
SPLM SG, Juba HQ,
Compatriot, Comrade Pagan,
Since I didn't hear any reply from our brother Lomayat, I would like to address this issue to you and Cc the Chairman, P of the GoSS, LG Salva Kiir.
I would have chosen a different way to send you this latter, but since it is an internet based problem and a general SPLM Diaspora problem, I am sure this would be the legal and a fair way to everybody. By someway or somehow, I am sure it will reach you.
I will be very brief and simple in this matter, because we will automatically understand everything.
Brother Lomayat abused the authorities that have been given to him by us (the Diaspora) and instead, he uses the power that has been given to him by Latiolojiggo, a person that is a technical owner of the SPLM Diaspora group mailing list (meaning, when you are the first one who happened to have established the group under your email account, then you are an owner) And as an owner, you will have all powers to give moderators different features accordingly. Hence, we are facing tragedies as far as SPLM Diaspora concern.
Mr. SG,
Now, the only straight name (the SPLM Diaspora) that every body or groups flow to get in is vanished. Just because of Lomayat being a moderator who is being backed up by his allied Latiolojiggo, kicked out all the moderators (people like Dr. Mawien, Ambassidor Sabit, and more, members who are truly respected by our general party members, people like me would build up NEW-SUDAN, which is the second choice of the Diaspora momentarily.
Before doing that, they (Lomayat and Latiolojiggo) have to be put in right place, where our party should have put them in the first place. (Lomayat being a good photographer, I am not even buying Latiolojiggo duties in this place) is an asset to the party and that is undeniable fact.
Now, if they where in their twentieths, I would have said that, well, they might change sometimes soon, but then…
We have a say and I am sure it is in the most places in the south; Hyena who cries, would never get something to eat, because people will hear it and they will cover up. It is an ultimate pleasure of mine to know a person before giving him/her my salutes and then regret latter.
SPLM Diaspora is being owned by these two people. Even though, Latiolojiggo is trying hard to buy peoples mine, I am not falling for that.
Comrade, Pagan,
Is that the way we should run the party, I am sure not.
Buy the power of being a member and as an active SPLM Diaspora member, Technical Committee of Our Own Powerful Media, an SPLM Journalist based in Washington, DC, Lomayat, be it a photographer or I am declining any work that is coming from him.
Brother Pagan,
Being a messenger does not mean anything more than delivering. Being a good delivery man gives a potential ownership. Lomayat disappointed us recently, and being in tour with you promoted his unrevealed manhood. So it is in the interest of the party to look and consider my latter.
However, the Diaspora is being managed by us, and I am calling this up for every body to dismantle the ownership of this Lomayat or Latiolojiggo, which mean we are going to the New-Sudan mailing list where we should rule right.
Anybody who wants to join NEW-SUDAN Forum, feel free to contact any of the moderators in the NEW-SUDAN or send me your e-mail privately.
Special invitation to Ambassador, comrades Sabit.
References are attached to this letter, follow the message.
I can be reached through
giirb@yahoo.com
SPLM SG, Juba HQ,
Compatriot, Comrade Pagan,
Since I didn't hear any reply from our brother Lomayat, I would like to address this issue to you and Cc the Chairman, P of the GoSS, LG Salva Kiir.
I would have chosen a different way to send you this latter, but since it is an internet based problem and a general SPLM Diaspora problem, I am sure this would be the legal and a fair way to everybody. By someway or somehow, I am sure it will reach you.
I will be very brief and simple in this matter, because we will automatically understand everything.
Brother Lomayat abused the authorities that have been given to him by us (the Diaspora) and instead, he uses the power that has been given to him by Latiolojiggo, a person that is a technical owner of the SPLM Diaspora group mailing list (meaning, when you are the first one who happened to have established the group under your email account, then you are an owner) And as an owner, you will have all powers to give moderators different features accordingly. Hence, we are facing tragedies as far as SPLM Diaspora concern.
Mr. SG,
Now, the only straight name (the SPLM Diaspora) that every body or groups flow to get in is vanished. Just because of Lomayat being a moderator who is being backed up by his allied Latiolojiggo, kicked out all the moderators (people like Dr. Mawien, Ambassidor Sabit, and more, members who are truly respected by our general party members, people like me would build up NEW-SUDAN, which is the second choice of the Diaspora momentarily.
Before doing that, they (Lomayat and Latiolojiggo) have to be put in right place, where our party should have put them in the first place. (Lomayat being a good photographer, I am not even buying Latiolojiggo duties in this place) is an asset to the party and that is undeniable fact.
Now, if they where in their twentieths, I would have said that, well, they might change sometimes soon, but then…
We have a say and I am sure it is in the most places in the south; Hyena who cries, would never get something to eat, because people will hear it and they will cover up. It is an ultimate pleasure of mine to know a person before giving him/her my salutes and then regret latter.
SPLM Diaspora is being owned by these two people. Even though, Latiolojiggo is trying hard to buy peoples mine, I am not falling for that.
Comrade, Pagan,
Is that the way we should run the party, I am sure not.
Buy the power of being a member and as an active SPLM Diaspora member, Technical Committee of Our Own Powerful Media, an SPLM Journalist based in Washington, DC, Lomayat, be it a photographer or I am declining any work that is coming from him.
Brother Pagan,
Being a messenger does not mean anything more than delivering. Being a good delivery man gives a potential ownership. Lomayat disappointed us recently, and being in tour with you promoted his unrevealed manhood. So it is in the interest of the party to look and consider my latter.
However, the Diaspora is being managed by us, and I am calling this up for every body to dismantle the ownership of this Lomayat or Latiolojiggo, which mean we are going to the New-Sudan mailing list where we should rule right.
Anybody who wants to join NEW-SUDAN Forum, feel free to contact any of the moderators in the NEW-SUDAN or send me your e-mail privately.
Special invitation to Ambassador, comrades Sabit.
References are attached to this letter, follow the message.
I can be reached through
giirb@yahoo.com
Petition_Egyptian Embassy in Washington, DC 01/05/06
Petition to: Ambassador of Egypt
Egyptian Embassy Washington, D.C
Egypt Embassy
3521 International CT NW
Washington, D.C 20008-3023
202 895 5400
January 5th Thursday 2006
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE
Mr. Ambassador of Egypt to The United States of America, we the Sudanese People from all walks of life and particularly Southern Sudanese gather here today in front of The Egyptian Embassy in an important demonstrations to mourn our innocent brothers, sisters and young children who ere brutally murdered in cold blood by Egyptian police force of four thousand on Friday December 30th at 5:00 P.M GMT in Cairo Egypt. We condemn this barbaric inhumane act of cowardice inflicted on our refugees near the UNHCR Head Quarters. Our brothers and sisters escaped from hell in Sudan but to encounter more than hell in Egypt. They came to Egypt as refugees in search of refuge and safe heaven, but because Egyptian Government does not recognize human rights and does not respect Geneva Refugee Convention, our brother and sisters including children are massacred in cold blood by four thousand coward police.
The State Minister of Sudan for Foreign Affairs was in Cairo before the tragic death of our people and soon after he left Egypt, the massacre of Sudanese took place. Sudanese People were sprayed with high powered water hoses, some possibly lost their eye sights because of extreme water pressure, some possibly had broken legs as they fell, some shot in the head, some taken to undisclosed locations. We demand an independent investigation into this Cairo Massacre and an independent body established by human rights organizations such as Amnesty International in Washington D.C and others and to comprise of doctors, surgeons, nurses, detectives to carefully investigate this cruel and criminal activity by the Egyptian Police Friday December 30th 2005. all the names of the dead must be released to immediate family members of the dead and to international media, family members must be allowed to find the bodies of their loved ones and must not be harassed or intimidated, all the dead must not be buried until full autopsies are performed to determine causes of death and results recorded by the independent body, total number of the dead must be recorded including ages, gender, names, the investigative independent body must be allowed to interview families who lost their loved ones and to visit various Sudanese dwellings and to act as a watch dog group for the unjust treatment of Sudanese People.
We The Sudanese People hold The Egyptian Government responsible for the death of all our innocent refugees and that brings us to the question of justice. Egyptian Government with its reckless, irresponsible, barbaric, inhumane behavior must immediately shoulder the burden of responsibility for The Cairo Massacre and therefore pay for all costs associated with transporting the dead and their families from Cairo to final destination of birth place including burials costs. We demand monetary compensation for every dead Sudanese refugee or non refugee including children in a respectable court of law. We are not going to rest or be silent until we witness justice for our dead together with the International Community. A microscopic surveillance of the treatment of Sudanese should be activated through constructive involvement of the International Community, churches, human rights watch dogs and the Sudanese People themselves. As a result of this press release, Mr. Ambassador of Egypt to The United States, we strongly urge you to advise your Government not to continue with its campaign of harsh treatment and brutality of the Sudanese People. January 9th our great Leader Dr. John Garang De Mabior, with his courage, dedication, passion, perseverance, vision, compassion and execution of a mission was able to achieve peace in Sudan after twenty two years of Civil War so why do we have to come and die in Cairo. We thought we left Sudan for unjust treatment and continued our journey to the gates of heaven only to be shocked by the gates of hell.
Another barbaric act in Egypt is the removal of Sudanese patients’ internal organs by Egyptian doctors for years and the world is not aware of it because we kept quiet and did not take a strong stand to tell the World. Time has finally come for true revelation, the time for exposition of barbaric humanistic tendency of Egyptian doctors against our brothers and sisters and those whose internal organs were removed and died in vain may The Lord Jesus Christ bless and rest their souls in peace and we ask them from heavenly earth to give us the strength to stand strong and fight for justice. We are not going to be quiet any more regarding the removal of internal organs of Sudanese patients when admitted to hospitals. Doctors are life savers. Example Doctors without Borders they go any where in the World to save lives irrespective of your nationality, gender, religious beliefs, political inclination or ethnic and cultural ties. It is about human life which is the most precious gift from God so why take it away. Egyptian Doctors are life terminators; they are the human butchers of Cairo. Many Sudanese especially South Sudanese when they are sick and admitted to hospitals have had their internal organs removed for sale in black markets for human organs trafficking. This phenomenon has been prevalent and still is up to The Cairo Massacre but unfortunately the outside World is oblivious because we did not tell the World. Now it is time for all Sudanese to tell The World what is actually happening in Egyptian hospitals. Egypt is not about civilization of mankind it is bout barbarism. A nation State that acts without regard to human decency and respect, no respect for international law, Geneva Refugee Convention. Removing a patient’s internal organs for sale to aggrandize materialistic wealth is an absolute criminal act that goes beyond human decency. Egypt does not belong in a league of civilized nations, but belongs in a league of barbaric nations with no regard to precious human God given life.
The death toll is at 275 two hundred and seventy five and rising and we demand a criminal investigation in The Cairo Crisis. Elections in Egypt were not democratic. Many peaceful protesters were arrested because of their freedom of speech. Mr. Ambassador wills your Government allow an independent investigation including criminal investigation, will there be freedom of foreign press to interview victims including immediate families and relatives without harassment and intimidating tactics. Sudanese have lived in Egypt for many years and the fact of the matter Egyptians despise of Sudanese People, doctors are cold blooded killers hiding behind masks of denial and deception, they are internal human organs snatchers, your Egyptian Police are murderers and we therefore conclude your society is barbaric, inhumane and does not belong in a community of civilized, compassionate and democratic nation states
Mr. Ambassador please tells your President he has inflicted serious wounds in the hearts of The Sudanese People and this tragic wound may never heal. Let us not make excuses by blaming the deaths on a stampede just like your media portrayed it, let us not blame it on human error. Why in god’s name would you send four thousand armed police with batons to massacre innocent Sudanese Refugees? Ministry of Housing and Urban Development could have devised a strategic housing plan to help the Sudanese Refugees. If you ask a high school student boy or a girl what should we do with The Sudanese Refugees waiting? He or she will say take care of them. Why such a simple answer? The answer is human feelings express humane approach. Your Government could not handle a simple matter because it was a coordinated effort in a clandestine operation to purposely disrupt the Sudanese Refugee population and further cause suffering. Your Government receives millions of Dollars annually from The United States what do you do with that money? Sudanese People will be signing a petition and we will expose to the whole The Cairo Massacre.
Egyptian Embassy Washington, D.C
Egypt Embassy
3521 International CT NW
Washington, D.C 20008-3023
202 895 5400
January 5th Thursday 2006
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE
Mr. Ambassador of Egypt to The United States of America, we the Sudanese People from all walks of life and particularly Southern Sudanese gather here today in front of The Egyptian Embassy in an important demonstrations to mourn our innocent brothers, sisters and young children who ere brutally murdered in cold blood by Egyptian police force of four thousand on Friday December 30th at 5:00 P.M GMT in Cairo Egypt. We condemn this barbaric inhumane act of cowardice inflicted on our refugees near the UNHCR Head Quarters. Our brothers and sisters escaped from hell in Sudan but to encounter more than hell in Egypt. They came to Egypt as refugees in search of refuge and safe heaven, but because Egyptian Government does not recognize human rights and does not respect Geneva Refugee Convention, our brother and sisters including children are massacred in cold blood by four thousand coward police.
The State Minister of Sudan for Foreign Affairs was in Cairo before the tragic death of our people and soon after he left Egypt, the massacre of Sudanese took place. Sudanese People were sprayed with high powered water hoses, some possibly lost their eye sights because of extreme water pressure, some possibly had broken legs as they fell, some shot in the head, some taken to undisclosed locations. We demand an independent investigation into this Cairo Massacre and an independent body established by human rights organizations such as Amnesty International in Washington D.C and others and to comprise of doctors, surgeons, nurses, detectives to carefully investigate this cruel and criminal activity by the Egyptian Police Friday December 30th 2005. all the names of the dead must be released to immediate family members of the dead and to international media, family members must be allowed to find the bodies of their loved ones and must not be harassed or intimidated, all the dead must not be buried until full autopsies are performed to determine causes of death and results recorded by the independent body, total number of the dead must be recorded including ages, gender, names, the investigative independent body must be allowed to interview families who lost their loved ones and to visit various Sudanese dwellings and to act as a watch dog group for the unjust treatment of Sudanese People.
We The Sudanese People hold The Egyptian Government responsible for the death of all our innocent refugees and that brings us to the question of justice. Egyptian Government with its reckless, irresponsible, barbaric, inhumane behavior must immediately shoulder the burden of responsibility for The Cairo Massacre and therefore pay for all costs associated with transporting the dead and their families from Cairo to final destination of birth place including burials costs. We demand monetary compensation for every dead Sudanese refugee or non refugee including children in a respectable court of law. We are not going to rest or be silent until we witness justice for our dead together with the International Community. A microscopic surveillance of the treatment of Sudanese should be activated through constructive involvement of the International Community, churches, human rights watch dogs and the Sudanese People themselves. As a result of this press release, Mr. Ambassador of Egypt to The United States, we strongly urge you to advise your Government not to continue with its campaign of harsh treatment and brutality of the Sudanese People. January 9th our great Leader Dr. John Garang De Mabior, with his courage, dedication, passion, perseverance, vision, compassion and execution of a mission was able to achieve peace in Sudan after twenty two years of Civil War so why do we have to come and die in Cairo. We thought we left Sudan for unjust treatment and continued our journey to the gates of heaven only to be shocked by the gates of hell.
Another barbaric act in Egypt is the removal of Sudanese patients’ internal organs by Egyptian doctors for years and the world is not aware of it because we kept quiet and did not take a strong stand to tell the World. Time has finally come for true revelation, the time for exposition of barbaric humanistic tendency of Egyptian doctors against our brothers and sisters and those whose internal organs were removed and died in vain may The Lord Jesus Christ bless and rest their souls in peace and we ask them from heavenly earth to give us the strength to stand strong and fight for justice. We are not going to be quiet any more regarding the removal of internal organs of Sudanese patients when admitted to hospitals. Doctors are life savers. Example Doctors without Borders they go any where in the World to save lives irrespective of your nationality, gender, religious beliefs, political inclination or ethnic and cultural ties. It is about human life which is the most precious gift from God so why take it away. Egyptian Doctors are life terminators; they are the human butchers of Cairo. Many Sudanese especially South Sudanese when they are sick and admitted to hospitals have had their internal organs removed for sale in black markets for human organs trafficking. This phenomenon has been prevalent and still is up to The Cairo Massacre but unfortunately the outside World is oblivious because we did not tell the World. Now it is time for all Sudanese to tell The World what is actually happening in Egyptian hospitals. Egypt is not about civilization of mankind it is bout barbarism. A nation State that acts without regard to human decency and respect, no respect for international law, Geneva Refugee Convention. Removing a patient’s internal organs for sale to aggrandize materialistic wealth is an absolute criminal act that goes beyond human decency. Egypt does not belong in a league of civilized nations, but belongs in a league of barbaric nations with no regard to precious human God given life.
The death toll is at 275 two hundred and seventy five and rising and we demand a criminal investigation in The Cairo Crisis. Elections in Egypt were not democratic. Many peaceful protesters were arrested because of their freedom of speech. Mr. Ambassador wills your Government allow an independent investigation including criminal investigation, will there be freedom of foreign press to interview victims including immediate families and relatives without harassment and intimidating tactics. Sudanese have lived in Egypt for many years and the fact of the matter Egyptians despise of Sudanese People, doctors are cold blooded killers hiding behind masks of denial and deception, they are internal human organs snatchers, your Egyptian Police are murderers and we therefore conclude your society is barbaric, inhumane and does not belong in a community of civilized, compassionate and democratic nation states
Mr. Ambassador please tells your President he has inflicted serious wounds in the hearts of The Sudanese People and this tragic wound may never heal. Let us not make excuses by blaming the deaths on a stampede just like your media portrayed it, let us not blame it on human error. Why in god’s name would you send four thousand armed police with batons to massacre innocent Sudanese Refugees? Ministry of Housing and Urban Development could have devised a strategic housing plan to help the Sudanese Refugees. If you ask a high school student boy or a girl what should we do with The Sudanese Refugees waiting? He or she will say take care of them. Why such a simple answer? The answer is human feelings express humane approach. Your Government could not handle a simple matter because it was a coordinated effort in a clandestine operation to purposely disrupt the Sudanese Refugee population and further cause suffering. Your Government receives millions of Dollars annually from The United States what do you do with that money? Sudanese People will be signing a petition and we will expose to the whole The Cairo Massacre.
Press Conference,ZOELLICK/KIIR
November 1, 2005
Remarks
Deputy Secretary of State Robert B. Zoellick
With the First Vice President of the Government of National Unity of Sudan
Salva Kiir
After Their Meeting
November 1, 2005
The Treaty Room
Washington, D.C.
(5:05 p.m. EST)
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Thank you for joining us. I just finished a long session with First Vice President Kiir. We've spent over a couple of hours talking about the developments in standing up the Government of Southern Sudan; about the implementation of the Comprehensive Peace Accord; and also conditions in Darfur.
The Vice President had an opportunity to meet earlier with Vice President Cheney, also with Secretary Rice. Tomorrow, he'll have a meeting with some members of Congress. And as I told him and his colleagues, I'm very appreciative that they could take the time to come to Washington because I know there are enormous demands on his time and his colleagues' time.
I will be going out to Sudan next week and we'll be visiting Khartoum, Darfur and also Juba, where the Government of Southern Sudan is being stood up.
And so this gave me an excellent opportunity to talk to the First Vice President about developments on the ground, ways we can cooperate and help one another. And I also had an opportunity to talk with Vice President Taha today because I've been pressing for some of the steps to implement the Comprehensive Peace Accord and some of the issues with Darfur.
And so it was -- I think we're seeing some positive steps but that's what I wanted to talk to the Vice President about.
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, good evening. As you have heard, we have been in many meeting and I have no reason again to comment on the people that I have met today because he has already said them. And we have talked about the Comprehensive Peace Agreement -- that is the CPA. And the issue of Darfur you all know about what is happening in Darfur. And so we are delighted to be here today in the State Department and all of you have been following about the development in Sudan and our visit here, of course, I came here in my capacity as the President of the Government of Southern Sudan.
Of course, I'm the First Vice President of the Sudan, but that was not the first thing that I came here. I came here to explain to the Government of the United States the development of our things after the tragic death of our leader, Dr. Garang, and this is our first mission to America.
Thank you very much.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: We'll take a couple of questions. Here. Yes.
QUESTION: Sue Pleming from Reuters. Did you discuss the issue of lifting sanctions against Sudan maybe -- and if so, would you be looking at the issue of lifting partial sanction -- of lifting some and having a partial lifting of sanctions?
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: What we reviewed was the fact that the sanctions were put on originally because of the strong hostile reaction to the policies of the Government of Sudan in a number of areas. And the key is to show a new path as has been set out through the Comprehensive Peace Accord; but also now in the areas of Darfur. So we need to see ongoing results before we can see any changes in those policies.
One of the items that we talked about today and that I talked about with Vice President Taha was the need to establish the Assessment and Evaluation Commission, which is the capstone of the CPA process. And Vice President Taha told me today that that was going to be set up and they would accept the Norwegian, Mr. Vraalsen as the chair of that process.
If that happens, that's a good step. They also talked -- he also mentioned about setting up the National Petroleum Commission. We talked about the Boundary Commission, which is vital. But there are other steps that have to be followed through and these steps while a positive sign are requirements under the CPA and there are many others that have to be implemented along the way.
Similarly, I talked about the problems of the increase in violence in Darfur. In here, we've been urging the government to accept some Canadian armored personnel carriers to support the African Union forces and I was told today that those should be moving forward but I haven't been able to confirm that.
So there are a number of items that we want to try to see progress on and that's one reason that I'm going to Sudan is to try to make sure that the policies that are represented under the Comprehensive Peace Accord are on track and that all the parties are undertaking it. I also hope to meet some of the rebel groups from Darfur to ensure that they come together in a unified position because in the problems of Darfur, it's not just a question of providing security or humanitarian support but eventually moving to some peace accord. And as you know, there have been some discussions in Abuja but part of -- is to make sure that the various rebel groups come together effectively in those negotiations.
So I think we have more progress to go before we could go to take any of the actions you mentioned.
QUESTION: Thank you.
QUESTION: First Vice President, would you like to comment on the issue of sanctions and whether you believe they should be lifted?
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: Well, I will have no comment because what he said is what we have talked about. And because the sanctions were imposed for the reasons and it needs time for us to go and sit down. I cannot comment on it and we'll talk about them next time.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Yes.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, on your first trip to Sudan you put great hope in the African Union as a way to deal with the violence and since then we've seen a rather dramatic increase in the number of African Union troops, yet the violence has gotten worse. I'm wondering why that is, what you think is going on there? And how much of this violence can the government be blamed for and how much the anti-government rebels?
And if I can to Mr. President, how much control do you think you have or influence sway do you have over those anti-government rebels in Darfur?
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Why don't I start and then you can answer the second part.
As the UN reported, the expansion of the AU mission over the course of the past year, plus other factors did stop some of the large-scale violence. What I think you're referring to is in the past couple of weeks you've had an upswing of some actions that, frankly, involves various parties. There's some reports of rebels, there's some reports of Janjaweed, there's some reports of government forces, all of which is to go to one of the reasons why we want to further strengthen the African Union capabilities. As you mentioned, they're now up to, I think, some 6,000 personnel; when we were there they were probably 2400. This allows them to cover more area, but one of the reasons that I've been pressing to have the government permit the armored personnel carriers is these forces are still vulnerable and they also don't have the mobility. So this is to try to strengthen the African Union's capability.
But as I answered to the first question, you can never really secure this area until you create a peace accord and so these are holding actions to try to minimize the conditions of violence. One of the other topics that Secretary Rice pressed when she was there and I talked about it again with Vice President Taha today and I talked about with First Vice President Kiir is some of our initiatives to deal with violence against women, so those are actions to try to alleviate terrible conditions. But to solve them you have to have the peace accord and that's why what we're continuing to try to do is, now that the SPLM is part of the government, the First Vice President has had discussions about trying to come together with a unified position for the Government of National Unity, which I hope will help in the process. That's one reason why I want to try to bring the rebel groups together in the process. And the African Union has been doing a pretty good in terms of the mediation of those topics along the way.
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: Well, the other part of your question as to whether we have control and how much control we have over the forces in Darfur. SPLM joined the Government of National Unity in September when the government was setup. And of course, we, as the Government of -- in the center, are responsible for everybody in Sudan. What has not been completed so far is the issue of peace in Darfur. We have not yet been involved in the situation of Darfur because we have not agreed, as the partners of the agreement, that is the National Congress Party and the SPLM, have not agreed on a common position of how to approach the situation of Darfur.
And this is why SPLM was not represented in the talks in the last round in Abuja. But now that we have agreed in principle that we will put up a joint delegation, representing the Government of National Unity for the next round of talks in Abuja, I think we will be in a position to contribute effectively to the solution in Darfur. Of course, saying so will not be enough unless we put it into practice. And we are sure if the fighting groups in Darfur come together as one opposition group and come with one position to the Abuja talks, I believe we also will come in with one position as a government so that we have an offer to them that what made them to fight was the reason and if we find out the reason that led them to fight the government, I think we can find a solution.
In the same way when we were fighting and we were negotiating with the government of the day in Khartoum, we give them reasons that led us to take up arms against the state. And so the mediators came in to find out that we had a case and so a solution was found. We believe that the same thing will happen to Darfur.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: We'll take one more.
QUESTION: Yes. This is for Mr. Secretary and Mr. President. Upon the tragic death of John Garang, the government of President Bashir kind of re-expressed its commitment to implementing the Comprehensive Peace Agreement, although there was some concern that perhaps -- and his untimely death -- that the commitment of President Bashir would wane. What is your assessment as to the good faith of the government of President Bashir working in the Government of National Unity to implement this peace agreement? Do you think there's a waning of that commitment upon this tragedy? Thank you.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Well, first, let me say a word about Dr. Garang's death. As anybody who's involved with this issue knows, he was a heroic and larger-than-life figure. It's not surprising that his death would be a terrible blow psychologically and also to the process.
One reason that I'm very delighted that First Vice President Kiir has come also in his capacity as President of the Government of Southern Sudan is that he had a quite established record as senior military commander and political support for Dr. Garang and we very much appreciate the efforts that he has made, that of his colleagues, Rebecca Garang, to keep the process on track to fulfill the vision of Dr. Garang because that is what is at stake in this process. And that's one reason part of our conversations were how the United States can help as the Government of Southern Sudan stands itself up.
We've got aid missions there. We're trying to help with security sector reform. There's a broad set of activities that we need to try to do and others need to try to do to help a courageous leadership, still moving through a very difficult period, but I think doing a pretty good job.
As for the Congress Party and the Government in Khartoum, President Bashir, the point that I have made to you in my calls with Vice President Taha is, is that some of the -- the outbreak of additional violence in Darfur, the slowdown in some of the follow through on the CPA started to raise doubts about the commitment to the CPA. And I urged Vice President Taha and his colleagues that if they remain committed to the CPA, as they say they are, that they have to take the actions to back those words. And so in that sense, the call I had today was useful in that some of the key institutions are starting to get set up and this will give me a chance to pursue that further when I'm there.
So the bottom line is that actions are what will determine the fulfillment of the CPA and what will determine whether we can improve conditions in Darfur and eventually reach a peace accord. So what I've been trying to do with all the parties is stress the actions that have to be taken and that's how we will judge this.
QUESTION: Mr. President?
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: We all remain committed to the implementation of the CPA, SPLM and National Congress Party. We are moving slowly but to the right direction that we are implementing the CPA. Of course, when we lost Dr. Garang nobody expected that the movement, that is SPLM, would remain united as it was under Dr. John Garang. But that was our first mission to make sure that we stabilized the movement and maintained its unity so that it doesn't effect the peace agreement, which we signed with the National Congress Party.
After having consolidated ourselves, we now turn to other institutions and so we have, first of all, to establish the National Assembly and then the Council of the State. Then formation of the Government of National Unity in Khartoum and then establishment of Southern Sudan Legislative Assembly and followed by the formation of the Government of Southern Sudan. Now, we are done with other institutions to be formed in Southern Sudan, like the state governments, the state assemblies and done the (inaudible).
At the national level, of course, we have established now some commissions we were mentioned by Deputy Secretary Zoellick and we will continue to implement what we are supposed to do so that we catch up with the time because the time schedule, we are behind a bit our time is scheduled, but by doubling up, I think, we'll meet the deadline for the implementation of the CPA.
QUESTION: Thank you.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Okay, thank you very much.
Remarks
Deputy Secretary of State Robert B. Zoellick
With the First Vice President of the Government of National Unity of Sudan
Salva Kiir
After Their Meeting
November 1, 2005
The Treaty Room
Washington, D.C.
(5:05 p.m. EST)
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Thank you for joining us. I just finished a long session with First Vice President Kiir. We've spent over a couple of hours talking about the developments in standing up the Government of Southern Sudan; about the implementation of the Comprehensive Peace Accord; and also conditions in Darfur.
The Vice President had an opportunity to meet earlier with Vice President Cheney, also with Secretary Rice. Tomorrow, he'll have a meeting with some members of Congress. And as I told him and his colleagues, I'm very appreciative that they could take the time to come to Washington because I know there are enormous demands on his time and his colleagues' time.
I will be going out to Sudan next week and we'll be visiting Khartoum, Darfur and also Juba, where the Government of Southern Sudan is being stood up.
And so this gave me an excellent opportunity to talk to the First Vice President about developments on the ground, ways we can cooperate and help one another. And I also had an opportunity to talk with Vice President Taha today because I've been pressing for some of the steps to implement the Comprehensive Peace Accord and some of the issues with Darfur.
And so it was -- I think we're seeing some positive steps but that's what I wanted to talk to the Vice President about.
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, good evening. As you have heard, we have been in many meeting and I have no reason again to comment on the people that I have met today because he has already said them. And we have talked about the Comprehensive Peace Agreement -- that is the CPA. And the issue of Darfur you all know about what is happening in Darfur. And so we are delighted to be here today in the State Department and all of you have been following about the development in Sudan and our visit here, of course, I came here in my capacity as the President of the Government of Southern Sudan.
Of course, I'm the First Vice President of the Sudan, but that was not the first thing that I came here. I came here to explain to the Government of the United States the development of our things after the tragic death of our leader, Dr. Garang, and this is our first mission to America.
Thank you very much.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: We'll take a couple of questions. Here. Yes.
QUESTION: Sue Pleming from Reuters. Did you discuss the issue of lifting sanctions against Sudan maybe -- and if so, would you be looking at the issue of lifting partial sanction -- of lifting some and having a partial lifting of sanctions?
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: What we reviewed was the fact that the sanctions were put on originally because of the strong hostile reaction to the policies of the Government of Sudan in a number of areas. And the key is to show a new path as has been set out through the Comprehensive Peace Accord; but also now in the areas of Darfur. So we need to see ongoing results before we can see any changes in those policies.
One of the items that we talked about today and that I talked about with Vice President Taha was the need to establish the Assessment and Evaluation Commission, which is the capstone of the CPA process. And Vice President Taha told me today that that was going to be set up and they would accept the Norwegian, Mr. Vraalsen as the chair of that process.
If that happens, that's a good step. They also talked -- he also mentioned about setting up the National Petroleum Commission. We talked about the Boundary Commission, which is vital. But there are other steps that have to be followed through and these steps while a positive sign are requirements under the CPA and there are many others that have to be implemented along the way.
Similarly, I talked about the problems of the increase in violence in Darfur. In here, we've been urging the government to accept some Canadian armored personnel carriers to support the African Union forces and I was told today that those should be moving forward but I haven't been able to confirm that.
So there are a number of items that we want to try to see progress on and that's one reason that I'm going to Sudan is to try to make sure that the policies that are represented under the Comprehensive Peace Accord are on track and that all the parties are undertaking it. I also hope to meet some of the rebel groups from Darfur to ensure that they come together in a unified position because in the problems of Darfur, it's not just a question of providing security or humanitarian support but eventually moving to some peace accord. And as you know, there have been some discussions in Abuja but part of -- is to make sure that the various rebel groups come together effectively in those negotiations.
So I think we have more progress to go before we could go to take any of the actions you mentioned.
QUESTION: Thank you.
QUESTION: First Vice President, would you like to comment on the issue of sanctions and whether you believe they should be lifted?
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: Well, I will have no comment because what he said is what we have talked about. And because the sanctions were imposed for the reasons and it needs time for us to go and sit down. I cannot comment on it and we'll talk about them next time.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Yes.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, on your first trip to Sudan you put great hope in the African Union as a way to deal with the violence and since then we've seen a rather dramatic increase in the number of African Union troops, yet the violence has gotten worse. I'm wondering why that is, what you think is going on there? And how much of this violence can the government be blamed for and how much the anti-government rebels?
And if I can to Mr. President, how much control do you think you have or influence sway do you have over those anti-government rebels in Darfur?
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Why don't I start and then you can answer the second part.
As the UN reported, the expansion of the AU mission over the course of the past year, plus other factors did stop some of the large-scale violence. What I think you're referring to is in the past couple of weeks you've had an upswing of some actions that, frankly, involves various parties. There's some reports of rebels, there's some reports of Janjaweed, there's some reports of government forces, all of which is to go to one of the reasons why we want to further strengthen the African Union capabilities. As you mentioned, they're now up to, I think, some 6,000 personnel; when we were there they were probably 2400. This allows them to cover more area, but one of the reasons that I've been pressing to have the government permit the armored personnel carriers is these forces are still vulnerable and they also don't have the mobility. So this is to try to strengthen the African Union's capability.
But as I answered to the first question, you can never really secure this area until you create a peace accord and so these are holding actions to try to minimize the conditions of violence. One of the other topics that Secretary Rice pressed when she was there and I talked about it again with Vice President Taha today and I talked about with First Vice President Kiir is some of our initiatives to deal with violence against women, so those are actions to try to alleviate terrible conditions. But to solve them you have to have the peace accord and that's why what we're continuing to try to do is, now that the SPLM is part of the government, the First Vice President has had discussions about trying to come together with a unified position for the Government of National Unity, which I hope will help in the process. That's one reason why I want to try to bring the rebel groups together in the process. And the African Union has been doing a pretty good in terms of the mediation of those topics along the way.
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: Well, the other part of your question as to whether we have control and how much control we have over the forces in Darfur. SPLM joined the Government of National Unity in September when the government was setup. And of course, we, as the Government of -- in the center, are responsible for everybody in Sudan. What has not been completed so far is the issue of peace in Darfur. We have not yet been involved in the situation of Darfur because we have not agreed, as the partners of the agreement, that is the National Congress Party and the SPLM, have not agreed on a common position of how to approach the situation of Darfur.
And this is why SPLM was not represented in the talks in the last round in Abuja. But now that we have agreed in principle that we will put up a joint delegation, representing the Government of National Unity for the next round of talks in Abuja, I think we will be in a position to contribute effectively to the solution in Darfur. Of course, saying so will not be enough unless we put it into practice. And we are sure if the fighting groups in Darfur come together as one opposition group and come with one position to the Abuja talks, I believe we also will come in with one position as a government so that we have an offer to them that what made them to fight was the reason and if we find out the reason that led them to fight the government, I think we can find a solution.
In the same way when we were fighting and we were negotiating with the government of the day in Khartoum, we give them reasons that led us to take up arms against the state. And so the mediators came in to find out that we had a case and so a solution was found. We believe that the same thing will happen to Darfur.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: We'll take one more.
QUESTION: Yes. This is for Mr. Secretary and Mr. President. Upon the tragic death of John Garang, the government of President Bashir kind of re-expressed its commitment to implementing the Comprehensive Peace Agreement, although there was some concern that perhaps -- and his untimely death -- that the commitment of President Bashir would wane. What is your assessment as to the good faith of the government of President Bashir working in the Government of National Unity to implement this peace agreement? Do you think there's a waning of that commitment upon this tragedy? Thank you.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Well, first, let me say a word about Dr. Garang's death. As anybody who's involved with this issue knows, he was a heroic and larger-than-life figure. It's not surprising that his death would be a terrible blow psychologically and also to the process.
One reason that I'm very delighted that First Vice President Kiir has come also in his capacity as President of the Government of Southern Sudan is that he had a quite established record as senior military commander and political support for Dr. Garang and we very much appreciate the efforts that he has made, that of his colleagues, Rebecca Garang, to keep the process on track to fulfill the vision of Dr. Garang because that is what is at stake in this process. And that's one reason part of our conversations were how the United States can help as the Government of Southern Sudan stands itself up.
We've got aid missions there. We're trying to help with security sector reform. There's a broad set of activities that we need to try to do and others need to try to do to help a courageous leadership, still moving through a very difficult period, but I think doing a pretty good job.
As for the Congress Party and the Government in Khartoum, President Bashir, the point that I have made to you in my calls with Vice President Taha is, is that some of the -- the outbreak of additional violence in Darfur, the slowdown in some of the follow through on the CPA started to raise doubts about the commitment to the CPA. And I urged Vice President Taha and his colleagues that if they remain committed to the CPA, as they say they are, that they have to take the actions to back those words. And so in that sense, the call I had today was useful in that some of the key institutions are starting to get set up and this will give me a chance to pursue that further when I'm there.
So the bottom line is that actions are what will determine the fulfillment of the CPA and what will determine whether we can improve conditions in Darfur and eventually reach a peace accord. So what I've been trying to do with all the parties is stress the actions that have to be taken and that's how we will judge this.
QUESTION: Mr. President?
FIRST VICE PRESIDENT KIIR: We all remain committed to the implementation of the CPA, SPLM and National Congress Party. We are moving slowly but to the right direction that we are implementing the CPA. Of course, when we lost Dr. Garang nobody expected that the movement, that is SPLM, would remain united as it was under Dr. John Garang. But that was our first mission to make sure that we stabilized the movement and maintained its unity so that it doesn't effect the peace agreement, which we signed with the National Congress Party.
After having consolidated ourselves, we now turn to other institutions and so we have, first of all, to establish the National Assembly and then the Council of the State. Then formation of the Government of National Unity in Khartoum and then establishment of Southern Sudan Legislative Assembly and followed by the formation of the Government of Southern Sudan. Now, we are done with other institutions to be formed in Southern Sudan, like the state governments, the state assemblies and done the (inaudible).
At the national level, of course, we have established now some commissions we were mentioned by Deputy Secretary Zoellick and we will continue to implement what we are supposed to do so that we catch up with the time because the time schedule, we are behind a bit our time is scheduled, but by doubling up, I think, we'll meet the deadline for the implementation of the CPA.
QUESTION: Thank you.
DEPUTY SECRETARY ZOELLICK: Okay, thank you very much.
Inerview With VP/President of GoSS, Salva in Washington,DC,11/6/05
Dear all, please accept my apology for delaying this interview that was made since the 6Th. The vedio tape/DVD will be available soon.
All the parties in Sudan that can be recognize as political party, have no problem with each other and that is why we have the two governments UG and GoSS.
Vise President/President of the South, Chairman of SPLM Lt. Grl. Salva Kiir in
Washington, DC. November the 6Th, 2005
Interview by Giir Biar
What are the short-term and long-term plans of the government of southern Sudan as far as repatriation of refugees and returnees is concerned?
>Sava:
Repatriation of the refugees and IDPs is a one of the challenging mater that is going to face GoSS. It will not be done by the Goss alone, it has to be done with coordination with UNCHR and UN agencies that are supposed to be helping in repatriation. This thing has been discussed in Khartoum and we hope the program will start by the beginning of December and operates till the end of March.
-What is the status of the constitution for southern Sudan in the legislative assembly in Juba?
>Salva:
The Southern Sudan Assembly is now in session, discussing the draft of constitution and I think they should have been through with it by now. After we finalize the discussions of interim of South Sudan, the draft will be sent to Khartoum to Ministry of Justice to go through it again and see if there are any incompatibilities with Interim National Constitution. Once it is approved by the Ministry of Justice, it will be returned back to South to be signed into the law and then it will be a law.
There is lack of accommodation facilities for MPs and Ministers in Juba. What solution does the GOSS have for this problem?
>Salva:
Well, it is a problem that will live with us for sometimes. Unless if we get the funding from the money which were pledged in Oslo’s Conference, we will have no enough money to build new houses for MPs and Ministers. Otherwise the problem of housing is a one of the priorities of our government.
The United States was one of the countries that pledged a lot of money to help southern Sudan during the Oslo Donors’ Conference earlier this year. In your talks with officials here did they indicate when they will deliver on their pledges?
>Salva:
I have been talking in all my meetings about the pledges and there was nothing affirmative, but there some considerations.
How much of the oil money has the GOSS received as per the wealth sharing protocol in the CPA?
>Salva:
Well, so far we have not received any money, but we are working on the mechanism so that we claim what we deserve from the oil money starting from the 9th of January when the agreement was signed.
Recently the SPLM and National Congress Party Committees discussing the status of the capital Khartoum reached a stalemate and pushed the issue to you and your colleagues in the presidency. How are you going to approach (and hopefully resolve) this issue?
>Salva:
The committee that was discussing the issue of Khartoum announced that there are points that they agreed on and some were not agreed on. These differences will be referred to the Presidency for final decision. So far they have not brought it to my office. So I have no comment on what is there and what is not there.
When will SPLA soldiers begin to receive their salaries?
>Salva:
They will receive their salaries when the reorganization is completed. We don’t make a budget for the army that you do not know their numbers. So until we complete the reorganization, we will know exactly how many soldiers do we have and we will know how many have been demobilized and how many have gone to see other civil services departments and other organized forces like police, correctional services and Wild Life Conservations.
When you succeeded Dr. John Garang as SPLM chairman, you promised to continue with the South-South dialogue. So far the militias, especially in Upper Nile, have neither joined the SPLA nor the Sudan Armed Forces. When are you going to resume this dialogue? When and how will you see that the CPA is adhered to?
>Salva:
We have not yet met in sense of being South-South dialog as official as it used to be. But since I took the auth, I have been meeting with the leaders of the other groups and we have talked a lot about our differences and how to resolve them. So we agreed that they will participate in the GoSS. We have given them ministerial positions in states cabinet we gave them 20 seats in states Assembly, some SS. commissioners, So they accepted that and we are going to integrate their forces into SPLA sometimes soon.
Question of women 25% of power sharing has been a hot issue these day, what is the latest in you side?
>Slava:
Well, we have taken that thing up, whether it is 25% or less, we are in process of completing our women in decision making policies. So as you have seen, we have women ministers in the UG, GoSS, Unity G, sates assembly. So the issue of 25% is being tackled and whether it is not complete, well we are just in the beginning and we are going to complete it.
To date, Dr. Garang's death is still being treated as suspicious; some think that it was a conspiracy engineered by NIF, what is new arrangement put in place for your personal safety?
>Salva:
Dr Garang died in a helicopter crush which was a foreign Helicopter, it was a Ugandan Helicopter and whether there was any conspiracy from NCP and or any other party, I really don’t know. The investigation committee has not yet made their findings in public so that people can point fingers at particular organization or any foul played. Hence, I am still working with the government of Sudan. The same security majors that are being taken to guard the VIPs are the same security majors that are being taken for my security. We are not accusing the NCP of foul played in this tragedy.
Early this month SPLM said that it had a vision to resolve crisis in Darfur, what are these visions?
>Salva
If we are talking about the plans that are instructed to solve the Darfur conflict in the media, it will not be any longer a strategy that can work. So it will be public information and that can not save the situation. So I will not talk about what ever visions that SPLA has.
What are you going to do to make effective use of Diaspora human resources?
>Salva:
When we were talking about the repatriation, I included everybody, the refugees in the neighboring countries and in Diaspora, who are interested in going back to their country, are welcome. They will help people in developing our country. Of cause this will be coordinated with the agencies that are interested in helping us raise the resources to transport back of the Diaspora.
Education and the fate of our three southern Universities?
>Salva:
We have declared early that all we would need the Southern Universities to come back to South, but the problem is that we have no accommodation in the South, teaching facilities has not being develop, but we wont the Universities to come back to the South. We will work hard to see that students get accommodation, laboratories so that they don’t miss what they were using in Khartoum.
Support and incentives for local investors.
>Salva:
O cause the country can not develop without local investors. Whether the foreign investors will have to work with local investors so that their capacities are also built, at the end of the day, they will have to take over the projects.
What holds back business of White Nile Company in South Sudan?
>Salva:
Well, this is the question that I will not answer.
Recently there has been outcry from supporters and members of SPLM about your relationship with some Sudanese Parties especially the SSDF of Bona Malwal and Aldo Ajo of NCP party, what is your relationship with these two that causes such opposition?
>Salva:
All the parties in Sudan that can be recognized as a political party have no problem with each other and this is why they have formed both governments, the UG represents all the parties, the same thing in the GoSS. The SSDF is being represented and have their representative, the same thing to NCP and other parties like SANU, USAP, UDSF and UDF. All these parties are being represented in the GoSS at all levels in South Sudan. So we have no problem with anybody.
There are reports that officials of the National Congress Party are still torturing people, imprisoning others and the SPLM, a partner in the National Unity Government, is just looking on. Why are you quiet about some of these things?
>Salva:
Well there are such complains, but no body came up with particular names and we kept quite. We always raise such of complains to the authorities concern.
Is the need to strengthen the media service in the south, independent of Khartoum or Omdurman radio, TV and newspapers, the need to cast the net wide to get the right and capable southerners to serve on these commissions complying with your government?
>Salva:
If there are means of strengthening the media in the South, it will be okay, because I will give the GoSS, people of the South enough time to advocate for what ever program that they would want the international community to help them and also will help later on when the campaign for elections towards the interim period and the referendum issue. All these will need strong media.
Task of being a President of the South and a Vice President of Sudan does not happen in a normal governing, how are you handling them both?
>Salva:
It is a difficult task, because to run the two offices is not easy especially that the distance between Khartoum and Juba is not helping. While having solving the problems in Juba, national meters come up also.
What are you doing regarding the rejection by the Messiriya from the Abyei Border Commission report?
>Salva:
That is not also my responsibility; it is the responsibility of NCP. We agreed as partners of the CPA that the Abiey Bounders Commission decision is will be the final and we will obey it all. So we had accepted that. That has been passed by the commission. It is the NCP to come out openly and tell the World that they have rejected the decision of that border commission.
Lately Mr. Bona Malwal in Oxford, stated that president Bashir told him the there were some money that were given to Dr. Garang and he claimed that money are not traceable. What do you know about that?
>Salva:
I don’t have any knowledge about money that have been given away. So I was not present when Mr. Bona Malwal was talking to P. Bashir. Anything that was discussed between the two I can not really come to answer about it nor was I well presented when the money was given to Dr. Garang.
When will Salva Kiir as president of the government of southern Sudan declare his position on the issue of self determination for southern Sudan?
>Salva:
The right of self determination for the people of South Sudan is not a personal issue that needs my personal response. The CPA says it very clearly that after the interim period South Sudan will have to go on referendum on the issue of right of self determination and that is to vote Separation of S. Sudan if the unity has not been attractive during the six years of the interim. So my position as a person does not really mater. I can not come out and talk in the public about my personal position.
All the parties in Sudan that can be recognize as political party, have no problem with each other and that is why we have the two governments UG and GoSS.
Vise President/President of the South, Chairman of SPLM Lt. Grl. Salva Kiir in
Washington, DC. November the 6Th, 2005
Interview by Giir Biar
What are the short-term and long-term plans of the government of southern Sudan as far as repatriation of refugees and returnees is concerned?
>Sava:
Repatriation of the refugees and IDPs is a one of the challenging mater that is going to face GoSS. It will not be done by the Goss alone, it has to be done with coordination with UNCHR and UN agencies that are supposed to be helping in repatriation. This thing has been discussed in Khartoum and we hope the program will start by the beginning of December and operates till the end of March.
-What is the status of the constitution for southern Sudan in the legislative assembly in Juba?
>Salva:
The Southern Sudan Assembly is now in session, discussing the draft of constitution and I think they should have been through with it by now. After we finalize the discussions of interim of South Sudan, the draft will be sent to Khartoum to Ministry of Justice to go through it again and see if there are any incompatibilities with Interim National Constitution. Once it is approved by the Ministry of Justice, it will be returned back to South to be signed into the law and then it will be a law.
There is lack of accommodation facilities for MPs and Ministers in Juba. What solution does the GOSS have for this problem?
>Salva:
Well, it is a problem that will live with us for sometimes. Unless if we get the funding from the money which were pledged in Oslo’s Conference, we will have no enough money to build new houses for MPs and Ministers. Otherwise the problem of housing is a one of the priorities of our government.
The United States was one of the countries that pledged a lot of money to help southern Sudan during the Oslo Donors’ Conference earlier this year. In your talks with officials here did they indicate when they will deliver on their pledges?
>Salva:
I have been talking in all my meetings about the pledges and there was nothing affirmative, but there some considerations.
How much of the oil money has the GOSS received as per the wealth sharing protocol in the CPA?
>Salva:
Well, so far we have not received any money, but we are working on the mechanism so that we claim what we deserve from the oil money starting from the 9th of January when the agreement was signed.
Recently the SPLM and National Congress Party Committees discussing the status of the capital Khartoum reached a stalemate and pushed the issue to you and your colleagues in the presidency. How are you going to approach (and hopefully resolve) this issue?
>Salva:
The committee that was discussing the issue of Khartoum announced that there are points that they agreed on and some were not agreed on. These differences will be referred to the Presidency for final decision. So far they have not brought it to my office. So I have no comment on what is there and what is not there.
When will SPLA soldiers begin to receive their salaries?
>Salva:
They will receive their salaries when the reorganization is completed. We don’t make a budget for the army that you do not know their numbers. So until we complete the reorganization, we will know exactly how many soldiers do we have and we will know how many have been demobilized and how many have gone to see other civil services departments and other organized forces like police, correctional services and Wild Life Conservations.
When you succeeded Dr. John Garang as SPLM chairman, you promised to continue with the South-South dialogue. So far the militias, especially in Upper Nile, have neither joined the SPLA nor the Sudan Armed Forces. When are you going to resume this dialogue? When and how will you see that the CPA is adhered to?
>Salva:
We have not yet met in sense of being South-South dialog as official as it used to be. But since I took the auth, I have been meeting with the leaders of the other groups and we have talked a lot about our differences and how to resolve them. So we agreed that they will participate in the GoSS. We have given them ministerial positions in states cabinet we gave them 20 seats in states Assembly, some SS. commissioners, So they accepted that and we are going to integrate their forces into SPLA sometimes soon.
Question of women 25% of power sharing has been a hot issue these day, what is the latest in you side?
>Slava:
Well, we have taken that thing up, whether it is 25% or less, we are in process of completing our women in decision making policies. So as you have seen, we have women ministers in the UG, GoSS, Unity G, sates assembly. So the issue of 25% is being tackled and whether it is not complete, well we are just in the beginning and we are going to complete it.
To date, Dr. Garang's death is still being treated as suspicious; some think that it was a conspiracy engineered by NIF, what is new arrangement put in place for your personal safety?
>Salva:
Dr Garang died in a helicopter crush which was a foreign Helicopter, it was a Ugandan Helicopter and whether there was any conspiracy from NCP and or any other party, I really don’t know. The investigation committee has not yet made their findings in public so that people can point fingers at particular organization or any foul played. Hence, I am still working with the government of Sudan. The same security majors that are being taken to guard the VIPs are the same security majors that are being taken for my security. We are not accusing the NCP of foul played in this tragedy.
Early this month SPLM said that it had a vision to resolve crisis in Darfur, what are these visions?
>Salva
If we are talking about the plans that are instructed to solve the Darfur conflict in the media, it will not be any longer a strategy that can work. So it will be public information and that can not save the situation. So I will not talk about what ever visions that SPLA has.
What are you going to do to make effective use of Diaspora human resources?
>Salva:
When we were talking about the repatriation, I included everybody, the refugees in the neighboring countries and in Diaspora, who are interested in going back to their country, are welcome. They will help people in developing our country. Of cause this will be coordinated with the agencies that are interested in helping us raise the resources to transport back of the Diaspora.
Education and the fate of our three southern Universities?
>Salva:
We have declared early that all we would need the Southern Universities to come back to South, but the problem is that we have no accommodation in the South, teaching facilities has not being develop, but we wont the Universities to come back to the South. We will work hard to see that students get accommodation, laboratories so that they don’t miss what they were using in Khartoum.
Support and incentives for local investors.
>Salva:
O cause the country can not develop without local investors. Whether the foreign investors will have to work with local investors so that their capacities are also built, at the end of the day, they will have to take over the projects.
What holds back business of White Nile Company in South Sudan?
>Salva:
Well, this is the question that I will not answer.
Recently there has been outcry from supporters and members of SPLM about your relationship with some Sudanese Parties especially the SSDF of Bona Malwal and Aldo Ajo of NCP party, what is your relationship with these two that causes such opposition?
>Salva:
All the parties in Sudan that can be recognized as a political party have no problem with each other and this is why they have formed both governments, the UG represents all the parties, the same thing in the GoSS. The SSDF is being represented and have their representative, the same thing to NCP and other parties like SANU, USAP, UDSF and UDF. All these parties are being represented in the GoSS at all levels in South Sudan. So we have no problem with anybody.
There are reports that officials of the National Congress Party are still torturing people, imprisoning others and the SPLM, a partner in the National Unity Government, is just looking on. Why are you quiet about some of these things?
>Salva:
Well there are such complains, but no body came up with particular names and we kept quite. We always raise such of complains to the authorities concern.
Is the need to strengthen the media service in the south, independent of Khartoum or Omdurman radio, TV and newspapers, the need to cast the net wide to get the right and capable southerners to serve on these commissions complying with your government?
>Salva:
If there are means of strengthening the media in the South, it will be okay, because I will give the GoSS, people of the South enough time to advocate for what ever program that they would want the international community to help them and also will help later on when the campaign for elections towards the interim period and the referendum issue. All these will need strong media.
Task of being a President of the South and a Vice President of Sudan does not happen in a normal governing, how are you handling them both?
>Salva:
It is a difficult task, because to run the two offices is not easy especially that the distance between Khartoum and Juba is not helping. While having solving the problems in Juba, national meters come up also.
What are you doing regarding the rejection by the Messiriya from the Abyei Border Commission report?
>Salva:
That is not also my responsibility; it is the responsibility of NCP. We agreed as partners of the CPA that the Abiey Bounders Commission decision is will be the final and we will obey it all. So we had accepted that. That has been passed by the commission. It is the NCP to come out openly and tell the World that they have rejected the decision of that border commission.
Lately Mr. Bona Malwal in Oxford, stated that president Bashir told him the there were some money that were given to Dr. Garang and he claimed that money are not traceable. What do you know about that?
>Salva:
I don’t have any knowledge about money that have been given away. So I was not present when Mr. Bona Malwal was talking to P. Bashir. Anything that was discussed between the two I can not really come to answer about it nor was I well presented when the money was given to Dr. Garang.
When will Salva Kiir as president of the government of southern Sudan declare his position on the issue of self determination for southern Sudan?
>Salva:
The right of self determination for the people of South Sudan is not a personal issue that needs my personal response. The CPA says it very clearly that after the interim period South Sudan will have to go on referendum on the issue of right of self determination and that is to vote Separation of S. Sudan if the unity has not been attractive during the six years of the interim. So my position as a person does not really mater. I can not come out and talk in the public about my personal position.
Interview with Bona Malwal
Sun Oct 2, 2005 3:44 pm
Dear all I should apologize for any mistranslation or any other problem. Please suite yourself and correct anything for the sake our cause. This is the web of this article (in Arabic):
http://www.sudaneseonline.com/
Giir
nterview by Dheia Aldin Billal
If Garang was still alive, would you have participated in the GONU?
Bona said: I would not have taken any position in the government.
=If Garang was still alive, I would not have taken any position in the government.
Some of these people want to trap me against Slava Kiir.
The interview with advisor Bona Malwal had especial convict. He was so sincere in the way that he was even very nervous. He was speaking with dignity that could frighten anybody when it comes to consequences. Mr. Bona as a Southern leader always has been a big shot and tried to keep the balance since the Seventies. A lot of stories are to be said between him and president Numeri. Some of these stories are outrages. Some of politic Protestants came in persuasive manners.
I started from the end.
Being an advisor of the president, came with a lot of rumors that you did not accept the position. After few days you were swearing before the president taking the position.
= I did not reject the position in the first place. If I had rejected the position, I wouldn’t come back on the second day to make an auth. I wanted to know what field I should be an advisee. When the president explained where precisely he wanted my help, I accept it with caution.
What is that field?
=Since the president did not reveal it publicly, I wouldn’t either.
It was said that you (the advisors) are just power seekers?
=Let the time prove that, you or who ever said that, are rushing the convictions.
Your relationship with Slava Kiir is very controversy and made a lot of suspicions?
=Salva Kiir is very thankful to me as a second person in the SPLA/M but I had a dispute with the leader (Dr. Garang). Despite that he refused to abandon me (Dr. Garang) and provided me protection for 12 years. That should prove the element of the strength and the values of the man whom he is.
What is the nature of your relationship with Salva Kiir is it personally or because he is from the same place you are?
=We are both from Dinka and from the same area; such of these relationships are existed in Sudan’s politics. I don’t know what make it controversy. I should think that there are some other parties who want to turn Salva against me.
Bagan Amum said it’s better for Bona to cooperate with the whole SPLM and not Salva alone.
= That is an excellent say. My cooperation with Salva (as it used to be with Dr. Garang) should mean the whole SPLM. I just happened to have a dispute with Dr. Garang and that’s how I became a defection from the SPLM. I would never differ between SPLM and Salva.
Then why don’t you join the SPLM?
=Let me go back a little, the first one who invited me to join the SPLM was Dr. Bathurus Gali (UN former Secretary General). After I had mediated the meeting between him and late Dr. Garang in New York, I refused the offer saying that I could serve SPLM outside more than I could inside, I would rather be an independent.
How could you be an independent and you established a Southern Party?
=I had never been an establisher; this party was established by concerned members.
This party came as a result of your cooperation with government!!
As a consequence of being so angry (the government) made you.
=So what!!...If we became a government’s made, that should reveal why we joined the Unity Government, and did anyone refuse the Unity Government?
But you say you are the Inqas Elwathan’s makers?
He laughs.
What is the conflict between you and late Dr. Garang?
=My conflict with him was a political issue. Garang was fighting for New Sudan and I did not understand that nor did I accept it. Making of New Sudan to me was a demolition of old Sudan. This demolition should be (only) accomplished in the peaceful manners. He chooses the war way and I will not support that. The main conflict was that he altered the cause of the South to the New Sudan. My own opinion was that, when ever people of the South fight for their country, means they want their country. The party that we have made came as a consequence of Machakus’ and the following of its changes.
Mr. Bona, it was said that your relationship with Salva Kiir created conflict among the SPLM!!
=That is their business, if some of them want to keep Salva away from me, so be it. I don’t think the SPLM was established to be an enemy of Bona Malwal.
After SPLM abandoned the minister of the Energy, South Sudan accused Salva of being a week leader and asked for his resignation because he didn’t keep the demands of the late Dr. Garang.
=I do not know what SPLM’s demands with out Salva Kiir are. Salva was a one of the SPLA/M’s establishers. He also has a lot to do with any achievements that SPLA/M had. It should not be a fair to connect everything with one person (Dr. Garang).
It was said that you personally convinced Salva Kiir to abandon the ministry of Energy.
=If I deny that, no body will believe me, lets first discus the principle of abandons. If NIF didn’t surrender its demands what would be the result if the SPLM rejected the requisition? Did anyone plane to go back to the forest and start the war again? From my conception, there is no any (what so ever) ministry that could cause a converse to being a gorillas at this point. Any political crises should have compromises.
Then you supported the abandoning of the Minister of the Energy.
=I support that 100%. It was obvious to Salva that NIF will never surrender the ministry of Energy.
Supposed Dr. Garang was alive; would you be a presidential advisor?
(The first thing, Mr. Malwal wouldn’t accept any position that is offered to him and share the office (Kassir Eljamhour) with Dr. Garang.)
Quietness………….
Secondly, he was very annoyed. He said that’s enough.
Is that true that Ms Rebecca refused condoles from you?
=These are personal issues; we are now talking about nation’s maters. I urge you not to escalate the mater to personal maters.
Are the Southerners closer to unity or separation?
After all these deaths and demolitions, would you be a unity or separation guy?
=We are in peace process now. We did not implement the CPA yet. You did ask me about the feeling of Southerners. They will never have a feeling before the 6 yrs; the hatred will remain among Sudanese. As consequences we are close to separation. That happens to all nations who have a similar case to us. Means of peace should mean melting of the main cause of the conflict. There is a good sign that started already; there are 16 ministers in the government now. This is the first of its nature to be happening.
Do you expect an early separation of South?
=If the war started again in these very late times of the interim period, and continue for long time, Southerners might make an early separation. I have a faith that, according to what is happening, there will be no interruptions.
Do the cooperationists from the Northerners bother you?
=I don’t get bothered on that. Those people are the ones who want Southern Sudan to be in the rate of the World. These people always get bothered by equality. These people have a right to call for separation because Southerners would never cooperate with their needs.
Is there any expected South-South conflict when separated from North?
=This question has an impression that advice Southerners that we should not have problems. The same question that every colonizing authority would say (especially in African cases) to any liberating society, and I would answer it (as the leaders of any liberation movement would say) the same way, the conviction and independency is our own good or bad. We will learn from our mistakes.
Do you think that there might be a problem in wealth and power sharing between Southerners?
=Yes, I don’t think the participation will be so 100% in collation. As it is seen in the Northern part that some parties will never satisfy with its share they will then never compromise. I should also expect that in South. I am sure that will never take an army clashes.
There are some concerns that some countries such as Uganda and Kenya want to take an advantages of the Southern natural wealth.
=These concerns are objected to concentration. Concerns are always there but yes to separation first and we will solve what ever comes.
The Unity had its own obstacle that lasted over 50 years.
Dear all I should apologize for any mistranslation or any other problem. Please suite yourself and correct anything for the sake our cause. This is the web of this article (in Arabic):
http://www.sudaneseonline.com/
Giir
nterview by Dheia Aldin Billal
If Garang was still alive, would you have participated in the GONU?
Bona said: I would not have taken any position in the government.
=If Garang was still alive, I would not have taken any position in the government.
Some of these people want to trap me against Slava Kiir.
The interview with advisor Bona Malwal had especial convict. He was so sincere in the way that he was even very nervous. He was speaking with dignity that could frighten anybody when it comes to consequences. Mr. Bona as a Southern leader always has been a big shot and tried to keep the balance since the Seventies. A lot of stories are to be said between him and president Numeri. Some of these stories are outrages. Some of politic Protestants came in persuasive manners.
I started from the end.
Being an advisor of the president, came with a lot of rumors that you did not accept the position. After few days you were swearing before the president taking the position.
= I did not reject the position in the first place. If I had rejected the position, I wouldn’t come back on the second day to make an auth. I wanted to know what field I should be an advisee. When the president explained where precisely he wanted my help, I accept it with caution.
What is that field?
=Since the president did not reveal it publicly, I wouldn’t either.
It was said that you (the advisors) are just power seekers?
=Let the time prove that, you or who ever said that, are rushing the convictions.
Your relationship with Slava Kiir is very controversy and made a lot of suspicions?
=Salva Kiir is very thankful to me as a second person in the SPLA/M but I had a dispute with the leader (Dr. Garang). Despite that he refused to abandon me (Dr. Garang) and provided me protection for 12 years. That should prove the element of the strength and the values of the man whom he is.
What is the nature of your relationship with Salva Kiir is it personally or because he is from the same place you are?
=We are both from Dinka and from the same area; such of these relationships are existed in Sudan’s politics. I don’t know what make it controversy. I should think that there are some other parties who want to turn Salva against me.
Bagan Amum said it’s better for Bona to cooperate with the whole SPLM and not Salva alone.
= That is an excellent say. My cooperation with Salva (as it used to be with Dr. Garang) should mean the whole SPLM. I just happened to have a dispute with Dr. Garang and that’s how I became a defection from the SPLM. I would never differ between SPLM and Salva.
Then why don’t you join the SPLM?
=Let me go back a little, the first one who invited me to join the SPLM was Dr. Bathurus Gali (UN former Secretary General). After I had mediated the meeting between him and late Dr. Garang in New York, I refused the offer saying that I could serve SPLM outside more than I could inside, I would rather be an independent.
How could you be an independent and you established a Southern Party?
=I had never been an establisher; this party was established by concerned members.
This party came as a result of your cooperation with government!!
As a consequence of being so angry (the government) made you.
=So what!!...If we became a government’s made, that should reveal why we joined the Unity Government, and did anyone refuse the Unity Government?
But you say you are the Inqas Elwathan’s makers?
He laughs.
What is the conflict between you and late Dr. Garang?
=My conflict with him was a political issue. Garang was fighting for New Sudan and I did not understand that nor did I accept it. Making of New Sudan to me was a demolition of old Sudan. This demolition should be (only) accomplished in the peaceful manners. He chooses the war way and I will not support that. The main conflict was that he altered the cause of the South to the New Sudan. My own opinion was that, when ever people of the South fight for their country, means they want their country. The party that we have made came as a consequence of Machakus’ and the following of its changes.
Mr. Bona, it was said that your relationship with Salva Kiir created conflict among the SPLM!!
=That is their business, if some of them want to keep Salva away from me, so be it. I don’t think the SPLM was established to be an enemy of Bona Malwal.
After SPLM abandoned the minister of the Energy, South Sudan accused Salva of being a week leader and asked for his resignation because he didn’t keep the demands of the late Dr. Garang.
=I do not know what SPLM’s demands with out Salva Kiir are. Salva was a one of the SPLA/M’s establishers. He also has a lot to do with any achievements that SPLA/M had. It should not be a fair to connect everything with one person (Dr. Garang).
It was said that you personally convinced Salva Kiir to abandon the ministry of Energy.
=If I deny that, no body will believe me, lets first discus the principle of abandons. If NIF didn’t surrender its demands what would be the result if the SPLM rejected the requisition? Did anyone plane to go back to the forest and start the war again? From my conception, there is no any (what so ever) ministry that could cause a converse to being a gorillas at this point. Any political crises should have compromises.
Then you supported the abandoning of the Minister of the Energy.
=I support that 100%. It was obvious to Salva that NIF will never surrender the ministry of Energy.
Supposed Dr. Garang was alive; would you be a presidential advisor?
(The first thing, Mr. Malwal wouldn’t accept any position that is offered to him and share the office (Kassir Eljamhour) with Dr. Garang.)
Quietness………….
Secondly, he was very annoyed. He said that’s enough.
Is that true that Ms Rebecca refused condoles from you?
=These are personal issues; we are now talking about nation’s maters. I urge you not to escalate the mater to personal maters.
Are the Southerners closer to unity or separation?
After all these deaths and demolitions, would you be a unity or separation guy?
=We are in peace process now. We did not implement the CPA yet. You did ask me about the feeling of Southerners. They will never have a feeling before the 6 yrs; the hatred will remain among Sudanese. As consequences we are close to separation. That happens to all nations who have a similar case to us. Means of peace should mean melting of the main cause of the conflict. There is a good sign that started already; there are 16 ministers in the government now. This is the first of its nature to be happening.
Do you expect an early separation of South?
=If the war started again in these very late times of the interim period, and continue for long time, Southerners might make an early separation. I have a faith that, according to what is happening, there will be no interruptions.
Do the cooperationists from the Northerners bother you?
=I don’t get bothered on that. Those people are the ones who want Southern Sudan to be in the rate of the World. These people always get bothered by equality. These people have a right to call for separation because Southerners would never cooperate with their needs.
Is there any expected South-South conflict when separated from North?
=This question has an impression that advice Southerners that we should not have problems. The same question that every colonizing authority would say (especially in African cases) to any liberating society, and I would answer it (as the leaders of any liberation movement would say) the same way, the conviction and independency is our own good or bad. We will learn from our mistakes.
Do you think that there might be a problem in wealth and power sharing between Southerners?
=Yes, I don’t think the participation will be so 100% in collation. As it is seen in the Northern part that some parties will never satisfy with its share they will then never compromise. I should also expect that in South. I am sure that will never take an army clashes.
There are some concerns that some countries such as Uganda and Kenya want to take an advantages of the Southern natural wealth.
=These concerns are objected to concentration. Concerns are always there but yes to separation first and we will solve what ever comes.
The Unity had its own obstacle that lasted over 50 years.
Sudan Radio Service: Other Victims of Garang Helicopter Crash
05 August 2005 - (Nairobi) - S-P-L-M ATHORITIES HAVE ANNOUNCED THE NAMES OF 5 S-P-L-A OFFICERS WHO WERE KILLED WITH DOCTOR JOHN GARANG IN LAST SATURDAY’S HELICOPTER CRASH.
THE LIST WAS RELEASED TO JOURNALISTS AT NEW SITE BY THE NEW S-P-L-M LEADER, LEUTENANT GENERAL SALVA KIIR MAYARDIT. SUDAN RADIO SERVICE PRODUCER REBECCA OKWACHI HAS THE STORY:
[REBECCA OKWACI:] “THE S-P-L-A AUTHORITIES HAVE RELEASED THE LIST OF 5 NAMES OF THE BODYGUARDS WHO WERE ABOARD THE HELICOPTER THAT CRASHED AND THOSE WHO PERISHED WITH FIRST VICE PRESIDENT DOCTOR JOHN GARANG. LIEUTENANT GENERAL SALVA KIIR CONFIRMED THE LIST OF THE NAMES AS LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALI MAYEN MAJOK, LIEUTENANT COLONEL AMAT MALWAL, 1ST LIEUTENANT DENG MAJOK KUANY, 1ST LIEUTENANT MAYEN DENG MABIOR AND OBOKI OBUR AMAYBEK.”
S-P-L-M AUTHORITIES ALSO CONFIRMED THAT 7 UGANDAN MILITARY OFFICERS DIED IN THE HELICOPTER CRASH. APART FROM GARANG AND THE 5 BODYGUARDS, NO OTHER SENIOR MEMBERS OF THE S-P-L-M WERE ON BOARD THE HELICOPTER.
THE LIST WAS RELEASED TO JOURNALISTS AT NEW SITE BY THE NEW S-P-L-M LEADER, LEUTENANT GENERAL SALVA KIIR MAYARDIT. SUDAN RADIO SERVICE PRODUCER REBECCA OKWACHI HAS THE STORY:
[REBECCA OKWACI:] “THE S-P-L-A AUTHORITIES HAVE RELEASED THE LIST OF 5 NAMES OF THE BODYGUARDS WHO WERE ABOARD THE HELICOPTER THAT CRASHED AND THOSE WHO PERISHED WITH FIRST VICE PRESIDENT DOCTOR JOHN GARANG. LIEUTENANT GENERAL SALVA KIIR CONFIRMED THE LIST OF THE NAMES AS LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALI MAYEN MAJOK, LIEUTENANT COLONEL AMAT MALWAL, 1ST LIEUTENANT DENG MAJOK KUANY, 1ST LIEUTENANT MAYEN DENG MABIOR AND OBOKI OBUR AMAYBEK.”
S-P-L-M AUTHORITIES ALSO CONFIRMED THAT 7 UGANDAN MILITARY OFFICERS DIED IN THE HELICOPTER CRASH. APART FROM GARANG AND THE 5 BODYGUARDS, NO OTHER SENIOR MEMBERS OF THE S-P-L-M WERE ON BOARD THE HELICOPTER.
If we compress the World to 100 people
If we could shrink the earth's populationto a village of precisely 100 people,with all the existing human ratios remaining the same,it would look something like the following.
There would be:
57 Asians21 Europeans
8 would be Africans
14 out of 100 from the Western Hemisphere, both north and south
52 would be female
48 would be male
70 would be non-white
30 would be
89 would be non-Christian
30 would be Christian
89 would be heterosexual
11 would be homosexual
6 people would possess 59% of the entire world's wealthand all 6 would be from the United States.
80 would live in substandard housing
70 would be unable to read
50 would suffer from malnutrition(ONE)1 would be near death;(ONE)1 would be near birth;(ONE)1 (yes, only 1) would have a college education;(ONE)1 (yes,only1) would own computer.
When one considers our world from such a compressed perspective, theneed for acceptance, understanding and education becomes glaringlyapparent.
And, therefore . . .
If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roofoverhead and a place to sleep, you are richer than 75% of this world.
If you woke up this morning with more health than illness, you are moreblessed than the million who will not survive this week.
If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in adish someplace, you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy.
If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest,torture, or death, you are more blessed than three billion people in theworld.
If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness ofimprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation, you areahead of 500 million people in the world.
If your parents are still alive and still married, you are very rare,even in the United States.
If you can hold someone's hand, hug them, or even touch them on theshoulder, you are blessed because you can offer healing touch.
If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are trulythankful, you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not.
If you can read this message, you have just received a double blessingin that someone was thinking of you, and furthermore, you are moreblessed than over two billion people in the world who cannot read atall.
As you read this and are reminded how life is in the rest of the world,remember just how blessed you really are!
There would be:
57 Asians21 Europeans
8 would be Africans
14 out of 100 from the Western Hemisphere, both north and south
52 would be female
48 would be male
70 would be non-white
30 would be
89 would be non-Christian
30 would be Christian
89 would be heterosexual
11 would be homosexual
6 people would possess 59% of the entire world's wealthand all 6 would be from the United States.
80 would live in substandard housing
70 would be unable to read
50 would suffer from malnutrition(ONE)1 would be near death;(ONE)1 would be near birth;(ONE)1 (yes, only 1) would have a college education;(ONE)1 (yes,only1) would own computer.
When one considers our world from such a compressed perspective, theneed for acceptance, understanding and education becomes glaringlyapparent.
And, therefore . . .
If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roofoverhead and a place to sleep, you are richer than 75% of this world.
If you woke up this morning with more health than illness, you are moreblessed than the million who will not survive this week.
If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in adish someplace, you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy.
If you can attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest,torture, or death, you are more blessed than three billion people in theworld.
If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness ofimprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation, you areahead of 500 million people in the world.
If your parents are still alive and still married, you are very rare,even in the United States.
If you can hold someone's hand, hug them, or even touch them on theshoulder, you are blessed because you can offer healing touch.
If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are trulythankful, you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not.
If you can read this message, you have just received a double blessingin that someone was thinking of you, and furthermore, you are moreblessed than over two billion people in the world who cannot read atall.
As you read this and are reminded how life is in the rest of the world,remember just how blessed you really are!
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