Argument on Nubia & Nuba, with Dr. Kuel Jok

Kuel,

Just a refresher –I did not get Ting’s email and I was going to respond to him regardless of what had transpired between us in private emails. Secondly, the content of what I’d posted was inflicted by the shortcomings of our conversations. You have attempted to apologize in our private emails, but did not actually apologize. You said you accidently generalized people’s stuff but you were referring to someone else’s in your previous exchanges. The truth is; you just wanted to play it smart. You see Kuel, a man should be embrace in public when they are humble and full of integrity. You don’t expect to take people’s rights and expect nothing in defense. What I meant by that is: you are not convinced that what I am saying is legit let alone the facts that my point is the truth that you have to atlist respect. The only way to do so is to come back and prove my point.

I will try to sum up most of your questions in one big answer: "I am not trying to compete with you nor did I despise your specialties. I respect and believe in your credentials" I could make researches to answer you, but since I believed that they are irrelevant, I will just answer them by the word “Irrelevant” With that big picture in mind, I hope I may eliminate some of the questions such as question number 3 and any other similar ones. I thought I would answer your letter by inserting my comments in blue which should help us. If we need to further discuss this I am certainly happy to do so. Here is your letter:

“You privately wrote to me yesterday and had privately responded, while the subject-matter was not private in its nature, but you chose to privatise it. Now, you revived what we had sealed in our private emails in a different character that embody insults and derogatory descriptions such as 'lordship' 'arrogance' etc. Please, answer me honestly on the following:

1. Is my definition of your material as 'a trashy stuff' defines you as Giir or defines the stuff?

It is indeed defining the stuff, but I am responsible to prove them not trashy.

2. Do you really know historical Kush Kingdom better than me in this field of speciality? Irrelevant.

3. Tell me, are you an expert in which field? Irrelevant. What is the subject-matter between the historical or mythical Kush? Irrelevant. Do you understand the diference between the calss of mythology and history in this particular context of Kush and what class I am pursuing? Irrelevant. What qualifies you better than me to interpret Dr Garang intention(s) between history and myth in regard to Kush? The better question is what makes you think you are right? It has never been about you and me; it is the truth that lies out there.

When Dr Garang named the SPLA Battalion as 'Kush', under the command of Yusuf Kwua Makki did he elicite that Name from the Bible or from the historical Kush of Nubia?

This is the core of our argument. I would do as much as I can to come out with what I am saying.

First of all, there is difference between the Nuba of Abdel Aziz El Hilu in Jibal El Nuba and the Nubia of Mohammad El Wardi in Northern Sudan. Let me introduce the difference:

Nuba of Jibal El Nuba,
Nuba Mountains was a refuge place for a combination of different tribes around Africa who fled governments and slave traders. As a result, over 100 languages are spoken in the area. After decades, they became the native of the area.
http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~ai38/Sudan/nuba.htm
http://bresh22000.blogspot.com/2008/12/history-of-nuba.html

Nubia of Marawe is a tribe that was divided into two groups after the independence of Sudan in 1956. They live in Southern Egypt and some in Northern Sudan. At one point they used to be the Kingdom of Kush for over 5000 years.
http://wysinger.homestead.com/nubians.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia

The word Nuba represented people of Kush, Ethiopians and any black man at the time. Since every black Egyptians “Kush’ came from the south “Saeiid El Masr”, they called them Nuba. Consequently, in the time of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, black people of Nuba Mountains were named Nuba because they were black people who came from southern areas. They evidently did not come from Kush nor did they know what Kush is. They were not called Nuba, in fact, they did not have a common name. Therefore, the synonymy of their conditions was behind the name Nuba and so of Kush Battalion.

I hope you are not talking about this attraction as the attraction of Garang to the people of Kush to join the movement. Because Nuba of Jibal El Nuba are not Kushiites. If they should be called so, then we “in the South” should be entitle to the name as well.

Dr. Garang’s claim of Kush kingdom was not upon people of Jibal El Nuba, it was on the origin of our ancestors. As he said before, Kush who disappeared descended us all. If you want to dispute how could that be true, then it is a different case.

5. What is the research question I have answered in my email to the national anthem committeee through Mayom Bul? Irrelevant.

6. Is www.coms sources are authentic sources for a research question on the issue of Kush? Coms are like books; some are credentialed and some are not. You would have to use your academicism. For example http://www.ushistory.org/ would be an authentic source and so on.

This is a homework for you. And as I told you in our private email that I would be busy in a memorial occasion of Manut M.Bol on saturday, therefore, I would not be ready to correct your assigment, but possibly on Sunday. Bear in mind, if you deviate from this noble homework, then I would define you off as a person resisting learning and ignore your stuff.

I am glad I was in position to respect your beliefs”
Giir

" A Venting Session" السوداني القرفان

One always ask why is the government of Sudan is only employing or promoting people with lack of integrity, people who are rejected by the World's Society? If they are elected in the nearest future, will they bring prosperity to the nation?

Watch this video of a mad Sudanese, on his "venting session" is trying to be heard in a meeting with Dr. Kamil Idris, a former member of International Law Commission in 1992-1996 & 2000-2001, also a Director General of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) 1997-2008. He was also head of the International Union for the Protection of New Varieties of Plants. Kamil Idris stepped down a year early from its post of head of WIPO, amidst "allegations of misconduct". According to the International Herald Tribune, Kamil Idris "who used a false birth date for more than two decades accepted a package including an extra year's salary and full pension benefits before he offered to resign over questions about his integrity." Kamil Idris blames the birth date discrepancy on a typographical error. On the other hand, Jessica Stark, spokeswoman for Ohio University, disputed that Kamil's master of Art in Political Science was not true, she told the press that he received instead a Master of Arts in African Studies. In spite of these titles, he failed to observe basic human rights of his countryman.

Nonetheless, the video represents millions of Sudanese who are not heard by any one and yet leaders anticipate their ballots counted. It is only a one minute and 22 seconds. Here is the السوداني القرفان video of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUEiGrYdF8U&feature=player_embedded



Giir Biar